i live in sedro-woolley here on the north sid of the river. I have seen HUGE bulls here. the problem is that the natives get first crack at them. then they have to swim hte river to get into the hunt area. if the herd is in hte trileum park that was made ofr them along hwy 20 near concrt then yo will never get them out of htere. they know the season. bad luck. short drive for me.