Wenatchee Pack Attack

[wolfbait]

The WDFW in various meeting has said that they either hope or believe that if prey is plentiful wolves won't want to take domestic animals. They made the comment that once the Wedge pack got the taste of beef that the only way to stop them was to eliminate them. Why would it be any different in other parts of the state? Prey in the Wenatchee area is plentiful so why would wolves need to go after cattle, because they are easier to kill.

And just like everywhere else these wolves have lived, when prey gets low wolves eat what ever is handy, keep your gun close and you kids closer.

[NoImpactNoIdea]

More...the wolves looking at the guys at the site of the cow kill.

Wolves watching them as they investigate to see if it was wolves or not...and they say it wasnt!  What did they determine to be the animal that killed this cow?

I dont think anyone has said it wasn't wolves.

I got that from this:

. Warden already denied. Said it wasn't wolf.  Now trapper is there this week to get collar on him. Idiots.  That wolf will be in a trap!!!  And not killed!!!!   

I did not see Scotts post or that pic, thanks for the heads up.

You had me second questing myself as to whether or not I had seen it!

[Ridgerunner]

Sounds like to me the wolves were coming back for their feast but Wdfw was their.  Anyone want to bet how long before another cow goes down? 

[jstone]

as a kid who went to wenatchee and lived up on wenatchee heights and road the bus. There are bus stops all up and down those canyons. i hope with these wolfs getting that close to town those kids wont be hurt or threatened??? Kids running around and playing at the bus stops, it makes me nervous

[Sawbuck]

I think he means that once wolves get a taste for beef they will continue to eat beef, especially if it is easier to get than elk or deer. At least that is what the WDFW said about the Wedge pack.

Okay, and who in the world would ever think that wolves, with cattle being in the same areas, would never get a taste for beef?

Wish they would get a taste for prowolf guys. Just wait until we are not talking about a ranchers cow being killed, and its somebody's kid. These wolves are healthy, if they get disease or start starving this is going to get much worse. And the sad thing is nothing will be done until the government feels it in the pocket book and that won't be until all the game is gone.

[jackelope]

More...the wolves looking at the guys at the site of the cow kill.

Wolves watching them as they investigate to see if it was wolves or not...and they say it wasnt!  What did they determine to be the animal that killed this cow?

I dont think anyone has said it wasn't wolves.

I got that from this:

. Warden already denied. Said it wasn't wolf.  Now trapper is there this week to get collar on him. Idiots.  That wolf will be in a trap!!!  And not killed!!!!   

I think that Scott added that after the fact. It definitely wasn't there when I posted. Anyway...can a warden really be the  guy who determines whether or not it was a wolf kill? A LEO guy? Seems more like a job for a biologist.

[muzbuster]

Beef cow and fetus killed by wolves in mission unit. Wdfw was hesitant to blame wolves for kill. While wdfw was performing necropsy on cow, two wolves appeared on ridge above them. More to come on this. Good reminder to call and express your opinion to state reps

Im sure its the infamous "hybred", it couldnt possibly be a wolf
SSS!!!!!

[bobcat]

Mulehunter, wolves are a federally protected endangered species, cougars are not. Need I say more? 

What would be the point of killing every wolf that ever eats cattle? That would mean every wolf in the state would need to be killed.

[jrebel]

   Sounds like a good idea to me.....kill them all!!

[pianoman9701]

I just hope this rancher doesn't suffer extended losses like McIrvin's suffered. Currently the WDFW has confirmed numerous packs but I think only 5 BP's, that means we still need 10 more BP's and then the 3 year countdown begins in which they successfully must breed 3 years in a row to begin the delisting process. If the wolf population continues to double during that 3 years we could have 30-55 BP's by the time we can delist according to the wolf plan. Can you imagine the impacts!

Fortunately Commissioner Douvia insisted on an 18 BP's cap so that if we have 18 BP's in any one year wolf delisted can begin. Douvia also insisted on a 75% population threshold for ungulate populations. If wolf impacts cause ungulate herds to drop below 75%, wolf control can happen.

We need to try and retain Douvia on the Commission. 

Yeah, because if he suffers losses like McIrvine, they'll blame it on him, too. The cute cuddly wolves are just doing what wolves do, after all.

The timing is good (except for the rancher) for this to happen while the Senate is considering the appointments to the commission. I hope this helps send the message even more clearly.

[uplandhunter870]

 

What would be the point of killing every wolf that ever eats cattle? That would mean every wolf in the state would need to be killed.

Exactly! wolves were a bad idea in Yellowstone a bad idea in ID, MT and WY. Theres a reason these SOB's were hunted to practically being extinct by our great grand fathers they are bad news period. theres a pretty simple law in nature and thats: Adapt or Die. wolves never adapted so they died, why cant we stop meddling in nature. before you jump on me and say well we manage game, yeah we do but in an era of human management we are the wolves replacements there is no room for two apex predators

[jackelope]

Mulehunter, wolves are a federally protected endangered species, cougars are not. Need I say more? 

What would be the point of killing every wolf that ever eats cattle? That would mean every wolf in the state would need to be killed.

I already know it, Thousands of Documents and Document since 1900's and still same story every where, Warden is just being puss for not shoot it...  Whatever.

The warden was following the law, Scott. You can't fault the guy for not shooting a federally protected endangered species. Hopefully the new bill passes and the ranchers and farmers can soon shoot to protect their livestock, but that's not happening at this point. I appreciate your passion on this topic, but give the guy a break. He didn't shoot the wolf because it's really really illegal to do so at this point.

[Heredoggydoggy]

have you ever delt with a chicken killing dog?  Egg sucker?

once the light clicks on in a K9's brain  "oh new food source",  good luck turning it off

Yep... 30 years ago, when I had chickens, I came home from work one day to find chicken parts all over my back yard.  I poured anti-freeze on the pieces of chicken and left them there.  A few days later I heard the hag across the street yelling to another neighbor that someone poisoned her two vicious mongrel dogs.  Didn't lose any more chickens after that... 

[mulehunter]

Mulehunter, wolves are a federally protected endangered species, cougars are not. Need I say more? 

What would be the point of killing every wolf that ever eats cattle? That would mean every wolf in the state would need to be killed.

I already know it, Thousands of Documents and Document since 1900's and still same story every where, Warden is just being puss for not shoot it...  Whatever.

The warden was following the law, Scott. You can't fault the guy for not shooting a federally protected endangered species. Hopefully the new bill passes and the ranchers and farmers can soon shoot to protect their livestock, but that's not happening at this point. I appreciate your passion on this topic, but give the guy a break. He didn't shoot the wolf because it's really really illegal to do so at this point.

I already know it, I respect him for do what he can for all of us,  if I am a WARDEN, I will show you all that I am Serious business and shoot it. Its Not about money/politics BS. They just wasting everybody time.

[littlemac]

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Two wolves in Pitcher Canyon. The ear tag can be seen in the right ear of the wolf in the foreground. (Photo: WDFW)

SEATTLE — A new wolf pack  — the Wenatchee Pack – has been confirmed in the state, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife said.

That makes 10 confirmed wolf packs in Washington state.

The new pack was confirmed just east of the Teanaway Pack. Two wolves traveling together were confirmed via a remote-camera photograph on March 24, the department said on its website.

“The Wenatchee Pack has at least two members – as confirmed by remote-camera photographs on March 24, 2013. One member of the pack is suspected to be a 1.5-year-old female that dispersed from the Teanaway Pack.  The female wolf was observed in the Entiat Mountains of Chelan County on February 11, 2013. The female wolf was captured by WDFW staff in the Teanaway in September 2011 as a juvenile and ear tags (#16) were placed in both ears.

“We suspect the dispersing female from the Teanaway pack (with red ear tags) is one of the members of the Wenatchee Pack,” the department said on its website. “There has been other documented wolf activity in the area consistent with the movement patterns of a pack.”