I got a turkey with my home build flintlock last week, (in turkey section. I have not been able to put a picture on). I have used a muzzle loader to kill most of my turkeys for a little over 10 years, most with the flint. I have used a CVA double and a TC New Englander. I use 90 grain of 2ff and 100 grain by volume of either #6 or #5 shot, some times mix both. I have only lost one turkey and that was with the New Englander. It some times shoots a inconsistent pattern, need a tighter choke for it. The other two are cylinder bore. Most of the birds have been under 25 yards, as close as 8 steps and on one occasion 35 yards. I seldom use the cartridge gun, except either a old gun of my dads and my granddads old longtom.