Depressing archery permits

[Fullabull]

Bobcat,
Do you use calling/locating techniques when hunting in October? You can't just go out and expect bulls to bugle just because they are elk, you need to elicit a response and it's much easier to elicit a response in early Oct. then it is in early Sept. The response you get in early Oct. is different than the response you receive in early Sept. They will come in silently more often in early Sept. to check things out. In early Oct. you will either get a bull with cows who will respond but not come to you because they do not want to leave their cows so you will have to go to them or a bull who thinks he might get lucky. In early Sept. I mostly use location or lazy bugles to elicit a response. You have more options in early Oct because there is more rutting going on.

Either way I enjoy my time archery hunting and the time we get to hunt so I will stick with it.

[huntnnw]

late archery has never started on Turkey day in those units in the last 20 years that I know of the..the last 3 or 4 years its been Nov 25th and before that it was Nov 20 for a long time

[turkeyfeather]

late archery has never started on Turkey day in those units in the last 20 years that I know of the..the last 3 or 4 years its been Nov 25th and before that it was Nov 20 for a long time

Know what your talking about before you make yourself look silly. Last year these gmu's opened 3 days after Turkey day. In 2011 & 2010 they opened on Thanksgiving. I know cause I hunted Thanksgiving morning. But in case you don't believe me a simple search of past regs will show you.

[billdo5]

The archery seasons are the best out of all of them. They have great opportunities. That's why I'm archery hunting for elk this year. You get two weeks in September, and then about a 3 week late season. Many units are open for either sex deer and elk hunting. If you have both deer and elk archery tags, it's often possible to take any deer or elk that you see.

Sorry, but I just don't think there's any reason to say there's a lack of opportunity for archery hunters, in comparison to modern firearm and muzzleloader hunters.

Now if it's special permit hunts you're talking about, yes it's true there aren't as many special permits, but that's because with an archery tag you don't need a special permit for a good hunt, because of the generous general season opportunities that are already available.

Thats a bunch of BS especially for elk east side... over there its the same as rifle spike only in almost every unit and for tags to kill a nice bull over there archery only has like a 1/4 of the choices that modern has....

[bobcat]

Thats a bunch of BS especially for elk east side... over there its the same as rifle spike only in almost every unit and for tags to kill a nice bull over there archery only has like a 1/4 of the choices that modern has....

As I've said many times, if you don't like the archery seasons, don't hunt archery. Buy a modern tag or a muzzleloader tag instead. Everyone has their choice, every year, to buy any tag they want. So why complain about the choice that you made? If you like one season or side of the state better than another, buy the tag for that season!   

[billdo5]

Well quit blowing smoke up our butts saying crap that isnt true...

[billdo5]

For special permits it should be equal amount of choices for each weapon...

[turkeyfeather]

For special permits it should be equal amount of choices for each weapon...

I disagree with you a bit on this. I think the % of permits needs to be proportionate with the % of hunters.

[D-Rock425]

 

[dreamunelk]

For special permits it should be equal amount of choices for each weapon...

I disagree with you a bit on this. I think the % of permits needs to be proportionate with the % of hunters.

The same argument could be used to set seasons.

[turkeyfeather]

For special permits it should be equal amount of choices for each weapon...

I disagree with you a bit on this. I think the % of permits needs to be proportionate with the % of hunters.

The same argument could be used to set seasons.

So your thinking is that modern hunters should get the best season?

[huntnnw]

Turkey day is different calendar day every year! There has NEVER been a changing date for late archery deer ever! Nov 25 th start date was implemented when wdfw started the late rifle whitetail permit hunt. General rifle closes nov 19th .. Nov20 is the start of the permit hunt then archery general to avoid conflict with archers and modern firearm. Before this permit which was about 4 years ago it started on nov 20th for atleast 15 years! I have hunted this season for 22 years. There's never been a changing start date to archery every year.

[turkeyfeather]

huntnnw- Did you check your facts or are you just recalling from memory. Cause I did check my facts before I commented back to you. I wanted to make sure I wasn't wrong and make a fool out of myself. So I cross referenced the big game regs from the last couple of years with what day Thanksgiving was on. I am right. The opening day for late archery in those gmu's changes from year to year, and 2 out of the last 3 years it opened on Thanksgiving. I am not trying to be an a-hole but you need to be certain before you tell someone that they are wrong.

[huntnnw]

2010..25th...2011..24th...2012...25th and 2013...25th

[BULLBLASTER]

2008 and before was Nov 20. 2009 to present has been the 25th with the exceoption of 2011 when it was the 24th. Only 2010 and 2011 the opener fell on turkey day.