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[Skillet]

It didn't know that relationship went sour... will be interesting to see how Bobcat handles the service for the CUTs they have sold.

[Knocker of rocks]

It's kind of like that with JD Green and JD Yellow, often no real connection between the two if you need support.

Bobcat sold their CUT's thru ag dealers, but broadly hinted that all Bobcat dealers would support these machines.  And that was something that that the construction end didn't really want to get involved in, especially after  Bobcat left the CUT market.  I'm sure if you bought a Bobcat CUT from say Towne and Country in Monroe, and walked in looking for parts, you wouldn't even know that the brand didn't even exist anymore.

[Skillet]

Thats why I was thinking the Kioti would be a good buy.  Just get a Bobcat service manual and buy the parts from the Bobcat ag dealer.

[Knocker of rocks]

What Bobcat Ag dealers?

[bucklucky]

On another note I when I was looking into buying a tractor I checked out the Kioti , really liked them . They were a few grand cheaper that the Kubota . The thing that swayed me away was the financing . Wasnt even close at the time.  I had another freind buy one and basically wished they never did as all they had was issues . I couldnt tell you what they had issues with it was. Might have been a lemon I dont know.

[Skillet]

What Bobcat Ag dealers?

I should have said "former Bobcat ag dealer".

[wildweeds]

They quit using calcium a few years ago and now use Beet oil,doesn't rust the rims out like calcium does over time.Calcium might still be an option though,I've got calcium in mine but my buddy got a farmall 45 horse and his tires are filled with beet oil.
My uncles are farmers,they've got a tractor from every camp except kabota,theyve got Deeres,Allis Chalmers and an international.Really doesn't matter who's make and model of tractor you buy the parts are over priced on all of them.I've got a New holland TC-30 manual transmission..................I've pulled a stuck John Deere 230 hp 4X4 out of the field with it.I've got 720 hours on it and it's still like new,I use it for tilling,grading,brushhoggin,stump removal/land clearing.I've got alot of diseased alder trees.Bought a Factory woodds Backhoe attachment off of craigslist for it.
As mentioned earlier,I looked at buying one and hymmmed and hawed,Rented one for a weekend and then thought I could justify the payment on the theory I would use it at least 8 hours per month.Got the 0% financing for 36 months put down 5K and three years later it was paid for @ 375 bucks per month.A little more than the 250 rental for 8 hours but well worth it in the long run.All the dealers have a 72 month 0% term now it seems.Tractors are handier than a shirt pocket if you own some acreage that isn't pressed out manicured when you buy it.

Get a tractor with calcium in the tires, makes a huge difference if you are used to a farm tractor.  We have a 24 horse, would have liked a bigger one but not practical for tight squeezes.  I had a bit of adjusting to do after growing up on a farm and driving the "real thing" then going to a "garden" tractor.  We use ours a lot and it is enough for the most part.

[motg9_6]

what part of my above comment makes it a blanket  one? you should really know what a grey market tractor is before you spout off

Not spouting off, I know well what a grey market machine is and stand by my statement.  Your comment that "If you buy a grey market tractor parts and service will be less than par" is incorrect for all grey market machines.  For a third time, I'll say you have to know what you're getting into.  There are websites that specialize in parts for gray market machines.  My gray market Kubota is a rice-paddy tired B6000 4WD with the japanese script decals instead of english.  I needed to rebuild the steering box for it because I made a mistake and left it out over the winter and water got in it, and a quick search had a donor box in my hands in less than a week.  I also replaced all the tines on the tiller; another quick web search got those out of Canada.  That did take longer than a week, but I'm sure that was only because I told him to take his time as I wasn't in a rush.  My grey market Yanmar is a YM2020D of 1982 manufacture.  It is one of a dozen or so early grey YM models with excellent parts availability.  I did a lot of looking at parts availability prior to buying that one.  There are many grey market Yanmars that I wouldn't have if you gave it to me just because of a lack of parts availability (FXX-series, for example), but the one I have is a great machine for which I have never had to wait for either repair or service parts. It works like a champ and is far from junk.   The best part is I could buy three of these for the price of a comparable new green or orange machine.

Funny you made my point when you said you had to wait for parts then you also said you never had to wait for parts so I'm done talking to you because you contradict yourself.

[Knocker of rocks]

I should have said "former Bobcat ag dealer".

Many of them are now Kioti or Yanmar dealers.  Kiotis look like nice machines, and I wouldn't have a qualm of buying one.  I think there will always be adequate support and dealers.

What I would stay away from are the generic machines from generic Chinese factories.

[Skillet]

what part of my above comment makes it a blanket  one? you should really know what a grey market tractor is before you spout off

Not spouting off, I know well what a grey market machine is and stand by my statement.  Your comment that "If you buy a grey market tractor parts and service will be less than par" is incorrect for all grey market machines.  For a third time, I'll say you have to know what you're getting into.  There are websites that specialize in parts for gray market machines.  My gray market Kubota is a rice-paddy tired B6000 4WD with the japanese script decals instead of english.  I needed to rebuild the steering box for it because I made a mistake and left it out over the winter and water got in it, and a quick search had a donor box in my hands in less than a week.  I also replaced all the tines on the tiller; another quick web search got those out of Canada.  That did take longer than a week, but I'm sure that was only because I told him to take his time as I wasn't in a rush.  My grey market Yanmar is a YM2020D of 1982 manufacture.  It is one of a dozen or so early grey YM models with excellent parts availability.  I did a lot of looking at parts availability prior to buying that one.  There are many grey market Yanmars that I wouldn't have if you gave it to me just because of a lack of parts availability (FXX-series, for example), but the one I have is a great machine for which I have never had to wait for either repair or service parts. It works like a champ and is far from junk.   The best part is I could buy three of these for the price of a comparable new green or orange machine.

Funny you made my point when you said you had to wait for parts then you also said you never had to wait for parts so I'm done talking to you because you contradict yourself.

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what part of my above comment makes it a blanket  one? you should really know what a grey market tractor is before you spout off

Not spouting off, I know well what a grey market machine is and stand by my statement.  Your comment that "If you buy a grey market tractor parts and service will be less than par" is incorrect for all grey market machines.  For a third time, I'll say you have to know what you're getting into.  There are websites that specialize in parts for gray market machines.  My gray market Kubota is a rice-paddy tired B6000 4WD with the japanese script decals instead of english.  I needed to rebuild the steering box for it because I made a mistake and left it out over the winter and water got in it, and a quick search had a donor box in my hands in less than a week.  I also replaced all the tines on the tiller; another quick web search got those out of Canada.  That did take longer than a week, but I'm sure that was only because I told him to take his time as I wasn't in a rush.  My grey market Yanmar is a YM2020D of 1982 manufacture.  It is one of a dozen or so early grey YM models with excellent parts availability.  I did a lot of looking at parts availability prior to buying that one.  There are many grey market Yanmars that I wouldn't have if you gave it to me just because of a lack of parts availability (FXX-series, for example), but the one I have is a great machine for which I have never had to wait for either repair or service parts. It works like a champ and is far from junk.   The best part is I could buy three of these for the price of a comparable new green or orange machine.

Funny you made my point when you said you had to wait for parts then you also said you never had to wait for parts so I'm done talking to you because you contradict yourself.

Funny you replied to my post when you said you were done talking to me...
You can twist what I said any way you want to feel like you got a win, dude.  Happy grey market tractor owner here that will continue to destroy the myths about them that folks like you keep pushing.
*not sure what the double quote is all about...

[Skillet]

I should have said "former Bobcat ag dealer".

Many of them are now Kioti or Yanmar dealers.  Kiotis look like nice machines, and I wouldn't have a qualm of buying one.  I think there will always be adequate support and dealers.

What I would stay away from are the generic machines from generic Chinese factories

Just did a little web search, looks like Kioti is a subsidiary of Daedong.  Kioti makes a model for Massey as well.  Looks like everybody is in bed with everybody else in the tractor biz...

[Knocker of rocks]

I should have said "former Bobcat ag dealer".

Many of them are now Kioti or Yanmar dealers.  Kiotis look like nice machines, and I wouldn't have a qualm of buying one.  I think there will always be adequate support and dealers.

What I would stay away from are the generic machines from generic Chinese factories

Just did a little web search, looks like Kioti is a subsidiary of Daedong.  Kioti makes a model for Massey as well.  Looks like everybody is in bed with everybody else in the tractor biz...

Yes.  YM=JD and YM.  Kioti=Bobcat, Kioti and others.  The smaller brands build parts for the biggies.  CNH=Case, IH, New Holland, Ford and I think Oliver.  ACGO=Massey, Challenger and several Euro brands.  Etc etc etc

[Whitpirate]

What kind of $ is a crazy deal?

I'm told I can get a 30 horse at Valley Tractor in Monroe for 14k plus tax

[Fishstiq]

...handier than a shirt pocket...

Hope you don't mind, I'm stealing this one!   

[Kioti]

Good to know there is a Kioti dealership down south.  I need a new seat for mine.
My Kioti LB1914 works for me...and has never failed to let me down.
Check this thread out.....
http://www.tractor.com/manufacturers/bobcat/2012-bobcat-ct440-review-1490.html