Public land, when to put up stand?

[hughjorgan]

So you are saying if I left my truck unlocked you would climb in and help yourself like it was yours. Sounds like a bad idea to me. Probably end poorly for you like it would if you were sitting in my tree stand that I own and refuse to get out of my stand. It is one thing if you build a stand on public ground but if you are bold enough to use some one else's tree stand that they bought and hung, you are asking for trouble.

Me personally? No. I have higher morals than that. But if you are careless about how you treat what you spend your hard earned money on, then that to me, says something about your morals. You dgaf. No offense.

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[BsB]

No, I am not. The regs don't say much about treestands use and what it does say pertains to DNR.

As the regs state on page 98, "Only tree stands that cause no permanent damage to trees should be used on state lands."

From WDFW website pertaining to tree stand use, "Building blinds, tree stands, camps -- no digging pits to create waterfowl blinds; no cutting trees or attaching wire, staples or nails to trees to build blinds, stands, camps; all non-natural materials used must be removed at end of hunting season; unattended blinds are available to public on “first-come-first-serve” basis; camp structures must be removed at end of trip."

http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Forest Service land differs per district you are hunting.

Go head and keep trying to BS everyone here about being able to use someone's stand that they have bought and hung TEMPORARILY on public land. It seems that you are confusing your opinion with the regulations printed by the WDFW.

Not to sound like a tree hugger (i work in the woods), but your telling me that cutting branches for a "climber stand" or attaching 2x4 or 2x6 what have you type stand to a tree with nails, screws or lags doesn't damage the tree?

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[hughjorgan]

No, I am not. The regs don't say much about treestands use and what it does say pertains to DNR.

As the regs state on page 98, "Only tree stands that cause no permanent damage to trees should be used on state lands."

From WDFW website pertaining to tree stand use, "Building blinds, tree stands, camps -- no digging pits to create waterfowl blinds; no cutting trees or attaching wire, staples or nails to trees to build blinds, stands, camps; all non-natural materials used must be removed at end of hunting season; unattended blinds are available to public on “first-come-first-serve” basis; camp structures must be removed at end of trip."

http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Forest Service land differs per district you are hunting.

Go head and keep trying to BS everyone here about being able to use someone's stand that they have bought and hung TEMPORARILY on public land. It seems that you are confusing your opinion with the regulations printed by the WDFW.

Not to sound like a tree hugger (i work in the woods), but your telling me that cutting branches for a "climber stand" or attaching 2x4 or 2x6 what have you type stand to a tree with nails, screws or lags doesn't damage the tree?

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There are alternatives to screwing steps into trees, I wouldn't consider cutting branches as damaging to the tree. I have come across some permanent stands that are attached to dead trees. I assume the trees were dead when they built the stand.

[CedarPants]

Meanwhile over at endhuntingnow.com they are once again rolling in their chairs at yet another endless internal debate amongst the hunting community ...........

[SemperFidelis97]

I know I have read this thread before it seems to come up atleast once a year the and the debate gets tiring

[hughjorgan]

Meanwhile over at endhuntingnow.com they are once again rolling in their chairs at yet another endless internal debate amongst the hunting community ...........

I don't see it as a debate, but rather a take on ones personal ethics and education on rules pertaining to different land ownership.

[CedarPants]

Meanwhile over at endhuntingnow.com they are once again rolling in their chairs at yet another endless internal debate amongst the hunting community ...........

I don't see it as a debate, but rather a take on ones personal ethics and education on rules pertaining to different land ownership.

I'm with ya to be honest 

[fastdam]

a game cam or stand has a reason for being there. a tv knife or gun serves no purpose unattended and in the woods. terrible analogy

no its a great analogy.if you want to be in control of your property then dont put it down in public and walk away for days at a time. Its a fantasy to think it will be safe, just because its marketed as a "trail" cam. Its like any other camera. Leave it laying around and you roll the dice. Same goes for your tree chair. If someone else shows up there first they may not appreciate someone thinking they can reserve a spot with some plastic gadget.

[swwaoutdoorsman]

This is good stuff  I don't hunt with stands but have been considering it, especially for my wife and my son when he's old enough. Just because it may say in writing somewhere that it is ok to sit in someone else's stand doesn't make it morally right. Morals is what many people lack today, my children will have them. I agree with D Rock and Button nubbs, if I use a stand and someone is in it the stand will come down before their exit. 

[sakoshooter]

I'm hunting eastern WA elk and have a decent spot picked out with a game camera set up for early season.  I know I need to get a stand in there early enough for the wildlife to get used to any disturbance it might cause in the initial set up.  I'm more curious about the risk of getting it jacked or messed with by other two-legged creatures that might stumble across it.

You can put it up whenever you'd like but if I'm not mistaken, it's not legal to leave them up for extended periods. Gotta come and go with the hunter the way I understand it.

[Yankee]

So maybe keep an eye on the area, keep track of activity, then maybe two weeks beforehand get it set up?  I'm planning on using the steps that ratchet  strap to the tree (so no permanent damage to the tree).  It's not a trivial thing to be hauling and setting up tree stand each day.  I thought about just hauling out the lowest section of climbing steps each day to make it pretty dang hard to get up to the chair, and maybe even weld on a bracket so that I could padlock the stand in the folded up position so someone couldn't sit on it?

[Button Nubbs]

a game cam or stand has a reason for being there. a tv knife or gun serves no purpose unattended and in the woods. terrible analogy

no its a great analogy.if you want to be in control of your property then dont put it down in public and walk away for days at a time. Its a fantasy to think it will be safe, just because its marketed as a "trail" cam. Its like any other camera. Leave it laying around and you roll the dice. Same goes for your tree chair. If someone else shows up there first they may not appreciate someone thinking they can reserve a spot with some plastic gadget.

I don't think my stuff is gonna be safe that's why I take precautions for potential theft. Its honestly mind boggling to think it ok to sit in someone else's stand or touch others things. Mom must have skipped that day.

[pope]

Here's an idea. Set up a hang-on stand, then pick up a pair of these (and learn how to use them):


Then remove your climbing ladder/sticks and just leave a rope hanging from your stand. Your average thief won't be able to climb the rope. When it's time to hunt, just climb the rope like this:

Your stand will be right where you left it and nobody will occupy it. Problem solved.

[sakoshooter]

I wouldn't sit in someone's stand but since we're on the subject, does a "stand" create a reservation for a particular hunter? If so, what about the guy that puts up 5 or 6 stands for different wind/weather conditions? Are all of these areas off limits to the rest of the world? I'm talking 'public land' now.
I know some guys that have built permanent elevated stands and think that everything within rifle range belongs to them. Many of these stands are an eye sore and even ruin a good spot sometimes.
Like I said, I wouldn't sit in another person's stand but I also believe ethics means that it should be packed in and out as needed. Forcing everyone to hunt elsewhere just because you hung a stand or staked a ground blind doesn't seem right in my opinion.

[huntnnw]

If I go into the woods to hang a stand...Im going in with the impression no one else is in that area...if I thought other wise I wouldnt be heading in there. I dont like to hunt around people and if I was going in and saw some guys setup Id look at it to see if its recent or has it been up for a long time. Id either leave or based on what it looked like with the stand continue on.

Now if I came upon my stand and it was visible that I had set it up that years and theres a trail cam running and possibly bait out and some dude is in it..he better hope he can jump or hes going to be stuck in it.. I would start pulling spikes or if ladder steps even better Id unstrap the sticks and down it comes and Id leave you in it! have fun