Kill the pigs

[Dave Workman]

Kill the pigs

There are times when Americans must take a stand against growing threats of abuse, property destruction and public safety, and according to NBC’s TODAY show Friday morning, this may be one of those times when citizens with guns can step forward and make a difference.

http://www.examiner.com/article/kill-the-pigs

[fastdam]

Pigs are threatenening abuse?......lol

[Dave Workman]

Pigs are threatenening abuse?......lol

Hey, I was on a rolll and having fun with this.

If you wee watching, one of the guys actually suggested that armed citizens might offer a solution and the woman kind of nodded but then it occurred to her what he was talking about and she broke a speed record switching to another subject.

[fastdam]

Its hard to imagine they cant be controlled. They would be hunted out around here if there were no rules

[carpsniperg2]

They are open season in places like texas and they are hunted 24/7 and they cant kill them out. If they took up roots here it would be the same way.

[KFhunter]

They are open season in places like texas and they are hunted 24/7 and they cant kill them out. If they took up roots here it would be the same way.

ayup - just like the wolves will be

[fastdam]

Is it too cold here?

[Jingles]

Controlling the expansion of islam. Let the pigs run free

[snowpack]

Is it too cold here?

No.  Wild pigs have different strains.  Most are from escaped domestics, but the real bad boys are the ones that escaped from hunting clubs--the Russian boars.  The domestics have a shorter snout, curly tail and lighter fur.  The Russians have long snouts that can plow through deep snow and roots, thick fur suited for Siberia, and straight tails.  They're good to really low temps, probably 60 below.

[runamuk]

Its hard to imagine they cant be controlled. They would be hunted out around here if there were no rules

their reproductive capabilities are better than most critters....when people say breed like rabbits they should say breed like hogs

[nwwanderer]

Many states are not really serious about controlling them.  The average pig on private ground in California would cost a Wa resident more than $400 dollars.  Texas probably more for pay hunts.  Wa probably will not have a problem with the average feral pig, they get loose all the time, tough habitat for a average pig.  The Russians would certainly make it but who would spend the money and the legal risks introducing them?  The canned hunts you read about in Wa are usually cull domestics.  A feed bucket would be the most effective weapon.
The only native pig type critter is the javelina.  Very different than a duroc/Poland cross tipping the scales at 1000 plus.

[HoofsandWings]

For you wordsmiths,
duroc
It translates to what??

[nwwanderer]

A duroc is the brown or red breed of domestics.  A poland is a poland china, another black colored domestic breed.  Cull breeding boars are often huge, remember 'hogzilla', a big old domestic crossbred.

[Birdguy]

Pigs can certainly survive here and if introduced would. It is not so much the reproductive rate as the survival rate that give pigs the edge. Not many predators for pig larger that 50 lbs. If ferrel pigs ever got a good hold here they would always be here. Destroying the forests, creeks, river beds, ripping up fences, damaging all the things that we as hunters need to keep what is left of or game herds alive. I suppose post wolf days may be a good time for an introduction but I suspect wolves could take down a few pigs as well  .

[fastdam]

Well they sure look like alot of fun to hunt. I would imagine if we had them here, we could probably have someting other than coons to hunt with hounds again. Im assuming they would be considered a nuisance and invasive. I think it sounds liie great fun.

[HoofsandWings]

For you wordsmiths,
duroc
It translates to what??

дурак
That means fool in Russian.
durak is the English equivalent, but duroc sounds the same.

[huntingyearround]

just a little info on pigs...being in the military now and growing up as a military brat I was stationed at Vandenberg AFB in Cali. where it is the orgin of Russian boars in the Western states. So how did the pigs come here you may ask? well back in the day when Vandenberg was a army base the troops had problems with gophers(troops stepped in the holes and broke ankles) so the army asked them selves what get rid of gophers.....rattlesnakes!!! when the rattlesnakes over populated and began bitting troops they asked themselves what gets rid of rattle snakes? Russian Boars!!! they have a thick skin called body armor which the snakes couldn't penetrate...when the pigs first arrived there was no hunting them and they populated for ten years or so and out ran the base and began expanding off the base...and that is where western states get pigs....eastern states are a mix between 1. boars that have escaped hunting ranches 2. domesticated pigs running free 3. javalinas <---how ever you spell it.... and since those three have mixed we have seen many different characteristic traits change in eastern pigs. All in all I say pig hunting is a blast as long as you don't shoot one too big....the bigger they are the more sour the meat (don't ask how i know  )

[HoofsandWings]

Interesting huntingyearround,
In Hawaii, there are Russian Boars on several islands. On the Big Island, it was a sign of manhood when a man with only a knife, waited in a tree and when the boar came by, jumped on it and killed it.
The boars were often seen at cemeteries, where they would dig up the graves.  I was planning a trip to Kalapapa, where the boars were big and plentiful, but the trip never materialized.

[huntingyearround]

If you ever get the opportunity to do it I would say go for it. My friends would always get burnt out by hunting pigs but I couldn't get enough of it. Also with the right of passage and the traditions behind it make it that much better. But again watch out for the meat on the big hogs  my first pig was a 275 boar and we cut 2" if fat off him took him to the butcher and the butcher laughed. I had it made into sausage and still it was nasty.