Entiat Late Bow

[BENCHLEG]

i would like to see youre gas bill for those states. give the guy a break.

[MichaelJ]

Griz if guys can't use this site to better inform their buddies of a place to hunt or to better educate people of hunting possibilities then what is the site for. If you don't want to give out your honey hole you don't have to. There are some tags that have to be drawn for and is not a genreal tag. Myself I don't have a problem with sharing info for people that need it to better their odds of bagging a nice animal in a draw area in which you can only hunt it on a very limited time frame. I am not a kiss ass hunter who doesn't do their homework. I work hard for my animals I shoot and was asking the question because of the limited hunting possibilities for that unit.

My question to you then is if you know the unit a little and did your homework, then what are you talking about "limited hunting possibilities in that unit"?  I guess im a little spoiled haveing these great units in my back yard to go scout pretty much whenever i want, but if i got a montana tag, or a wyoming or colorado tags you could bet your ass i would be there scouting at least a couple times .  if your gonna put the money into the hunt you might as well at least know the area your going, thats what im basing my comment on, my own personal outlook. Sorry if my comment gave you a bad taste in your mouth and I really do hope you bag a trophy.

That is the reason in my first response to your post said "i realize not everyone can scout as much as they want...what works for one might not work for another"

Hey Josh, I hear you as well but this is a draw only tag... IE: limited hunting opportunity.
 If the guy was asking for a general tag spot or an archery spot, or anything else than I wouldn't expect him to get hardly any help, but when someone draws a nice tag like this its nice to be able to help 'em out a little bit.  I'm sure most of the bucks he's seeing aren't the resident deer you know of, or the early migrators.  He'll be seeing 95% migratory deer that you will never have a chance to hunt unless you draw a tag, so why the beef?

Michael

[big_bucks]

Exactly - the hunt is totally dependent on the weather so it doesn't matter a whole heck of a lot where you tell him to go. Doesn't seem like he was asking for GPS coordinates to anyone's honey hole.

[Bighorse]

This is just crazy talk to me.  I live in Alaska and hunt the Tongass National forest and your territorial issues are part of my move from Washington to Alaska.
Now when I did hunt in Washington for Blacktail.  I scored twice in the two years I could stand it.  Each time I was blessed with the kind guidance of a fellow hunter.  I did both hunts solo but was pointed prehunt to a fairly specific area. Mainly because access is so tight in Washington I just didn't know where to point my boots. 

I'm a hard working family guy and when I leave my family and home alone it very important that my hunting time is effective.  We should be looking out for each other and helping maintain our hunting heritage in a healthy way.

Unfortunatly it goes much deeper than that and were really predators competing for a limited resource. 

So with that in mind....this guy is participating in a very limited access hunt utilizing a Bow.  Throw him a bone without hesitation.  He's doing more to support our heritage than I think we will every fully appreciate. 

I'd sent you a drainage name without hesitation via PM if I knew anything about that unit.  Maybe you could scout it and let me know how things are going and return the favor if I ever got drawn. 

Up here the Raven will let you know where the game is............................We all are in this together.

[WAcoueshunter]

Well said MichaelJ, BB, Bighorse, etc.  I can understand being stingy about OTC hunts, but it's a draw tag that the rest of us don't have, and they're migration bucks, so what's the beef?  Especially that hunt...

You really need the snow to fly (and it usually does by then), which brings them down into the canyons and draws.  If you have snow, you won't have any problem finding them.  The trick will be putting all your spot and stalk skills together (all the more challenging in crunchy snow) to make it happen. 

[nwhunter]

My brother and me and a buddy have a tag also for the first bow season, not sure which one you have. We will be camped up potato creek more than likely depending on snow at the time. Get a good map and figure out the roads like has been mentioned and you can cover the area and glass from the roads and stalk from there. Not a hard hunt to find deer just tough to get on them with the wide open terrain. If you have the same tag as us maybe we can bump into each other over there and compare notes. nwhunter

[Bighorse]

Now that I think of it......this situation reminds me of the elk hunt I did this year.  I was drawn for an archery hunt on Etolin island which is a remote hunting location off the road system and only accessable via boat or plane. 

I was able to get on the horn with a guy that lives on POW island and get really solid information on a particular drainage where he was successful.  He didn't give me trail info or the nitty gritty.  Just a "there in there, now go get em".

After the fact we got on the horn together and had a good time sharing info about a hunt area we both could appreciate.  He also offered his assistance in case of emergency.

My point......he was able to contribute and in a way and kinda relive a hunt he hadn't done for like 10 years.

Sorry about your thread being hijacked......now lets see this guy to some Archery Mule deer action.......I love those snow photos of big bucks.

[burnhamrandr]

Hey fellas I feel that this site is for guys to help each other out. If you don't like the topic go to a differnt topic. I can asure you, in a general tag type area I wont give my honey hole, but I have drawn many tags Moose, Elk, Deer and hunted for Goat(friends tag)  in washington if I can help a guy out in a draw tag unit. you bet your ass I will. YOU DON"T HAVE TO, JUST MOVE TO A DIFFRENT TOPIC.

[grizzlygibbs]

Griz if guys can't use this site to better inform their buddies of a place to hunt or to better educate people of hunting possibilities then what is the site for. If you don't want to give out your honey hole you don't have to. There are some tags that have to be drawn for and is not a genreal tag. Myself I don't have a problem with sharing info for people that need it to better their odds of bagging a nice animal in a draw area in which you can only hunt it on a very limited time frame. I am not a kiss ass hunter who doesn't do their homework. I work hard for my animals I shoot and was asking the question because of the limited hunting possibilities for that unit.

My question to you then is if you know the unit a little and did your homework, then what are you talking about "limited hunting possibilities in that unit"?  I guess im a little spoiled haveing these great units in my back yard to go scout pretty much whenever i want, but if i got a montana tag, or a wyoming or colorado tags you could bet your ass i would be there scouting at least a couple times .  if your gonna put the money into the hunt you might as well at least know the area your going, thats what im basing my comment on, my own personal outlook. Sorry if my comment gave you a bad taste in your mouth and I really do hope you bag a trophy.

That is the reason in my first response to your post said "i realize not everyone can scout as much as they want...what works for one might not work for another"

Hey Josh, I hear you as well but this is a draw only tag... IE: limited hunting opportunity.
 If the guy was asking for a general tag spot or an archery spot, or anything else than I wouldn't expect him to get hardly any help, but when someone draws a nice tag like this its nice to be able to help 'em out a little bit.  I'm sure most of the bucks he's seeing aren't the resident deer you know of, or the early migrators.  He'll be seeing 95% migratory deer that you will never have a chance to hunt unless you draw a tag, so why the beef?

Michael

 I see your point and gracefully bow out, having made a private apology as well as makeing it public to all of you. 
I am sorry for being a hi-jacker and see all your points.  The only thing I did was make an ass out of myself.  I did
congradulate burnhamrandr on the great tag in my first post, however also made myself look like an ass, so my
apologies. 

now that thats over     I hope you get a deer.

[dreamingbig]

I am not trying to stir the fire again and I am glad to see that we can work through differences of opinion.

However, my opinion and my opinion only, is that even though it is a draw unit, giving out information publicly online is not the best way to go about it.

I would prefer someone ask for PMs and that information is sent via PMs.  The reasoning is this...  Consider the other tag holders who have drawn for the area this year (there is more than one tag) and they have scouted the unit, reviewed maps, have a game plan in place, are praying for the right weather (might even have a back up plan if the snow is lighter or heavier than expected) and all in have really put their time into the effort.

Then similar information is put forth online publicly directing all tag holders to the same basin, on the same ridge, and effectively nullifying the efforts by the other permit holders.

I have hunted the unit before and know from experience that not every ridge is equal and that there are some parts of the unit that are better than others.  I also think that the more spread out the permit holders are in the unit the more successfully they will be.

I guess what I am trying to say is that if you don't have time to do the work yourself because a. you don't have time, b. you can't afford it, c. you are lazy, d. you don't know how to scout or e. any other number of reasons then by all means ask, but ask for PMs and nothing more.

Okay, that is my opinion, take it for what it is worth.  Good luck to all who have drawn the permit; it is a very fun unit to hunt.  Hoping for some snow for you to get the deer on the move!  It will be interesting to see how many there actually are given last years winter kill.

[burnhamrandr]

I do agree with you about the PM's, and have used them. But you have to ask the question first to get the pm's right?

[dreamingbig]

I do agree with you about the PM's, and have used them. But you have to ask the question first to get the pm's right?

Yes you do have to ask the question first.  My suggestion would be to add another sentence that says, "Please send me a PM with any information you can offer."

Again, only my opinion.  Good luck on your hunt.

[Slow-1]

I have drawn this tag a couple of times there are no great mysteries there .There were deer ever were we went you will have no problem finding deer snow or not they are still there just harder to spot with out the snow . Do be sure to bring your extra sneaky powder!

[MichaelJ]

  It will be interesting to see how many there actually are given last years winter kill.

The chelan CO deer herd last year wintered very well...  Not very much winter kill at all unlike the rest of the state... sure we got a lot of snow, but in a day or two the S. facing slopes were bare again...  We got lucky last year thats for sure!

Michael

[dreamingbig]

That is great to know.  Thanks for correcting me.  I assumed the worst...