Fletching contact tips

[Band]

I'm having quite a time with what I believe to be fletching contact with the bow but when I put baby powder on the suspect area to check it all comes off with the shot leaving no evidence of whether I'm getting contact.  How about some remedial instruction in how to perform this check, please?

[steeleywhopper]

Try using lipstick on the very edges of the vanes.

[Band]

Good thought but I'm using a whisker buiscut rest.  I guess I could try lipstick on the bow?

[bowNarrow]

What do you think the fetching is contacting usually you would use lipstick on a drop away rest not a whisker because obviously the fetching is gonna touch it

[Band]

I believe it is contacting the side of the bow just beyond the rest.  I think it's also possible that the contact is with the cable but I want to try ruling out the bow first.

[Smossy]

Na you use the spray on foaming foot powder. Cover the whole general area. Its just a light powdery foam. Easy to clean up. It will show u everything u needa know. Just dont spray your whiskers in the whisker b. Itll make a mess.

[Band]

By spray on foot powder are you talking about athletes foot spray - like Tinactin?

[hughjorgan]

Are you shooting blazers?

[Band]

No.  Blazers DO make slight contact with the cable so I use a standard-size vane, Duravanes I believe.

[Smossy]

By spray on foot powder are you talking about athletes foot spray - like Tinactin?

If it leaves a white residue that will stay unless contact is made it might work. Its a trick I learned from the winnerschoice channel on youtube.
Bow Tuning with Broadheads 1.flv
Go to about 45 seconds.

[hughjorgan]

Did you try rotating your nock to change orientation of vanes to avoid contact?

[Band]

Thanks for the video link, Smossy.  I'll rummage through the house and see if I can find something that will work.

Did you try rotating your nock to change orientation of vanes to avoid contact?

I'm close enough to the bottom of the shelf that nock rotation will potentially get me in trouble there as well.

[hughjorgan]

That is probably your problem, move your arrow rest so your arrow rest runs the arrow through the top half of your Berger holes. That will solve your cable contact issue. What type of bow is this any how?

[coachcw]

you need to raise your rest then reset your nock or dloop to level . It shouldn't be that close . and I wouldn't get away from blazers , a four fletch blazer in a x pattern works quiet well .

[Band]

That is probably your problem, move your arrow rest so your arrow rest runs the arrow through the top half of your Berger holes. That will solve your cable contact issue. What type of bow is this any how?

Diamond Outlaw.  Now that you mention it, I see that the arrow shaft is lined up with the bottom half of the holes.  Looks like I need to make a trip back to the shop to have the nock reset so I can finally get my bow tuned before the season starts.  As you might guess, I've been having a lot of difficulty with arrow flight and grouping.

[hntrspud]

Not only can I guess but I also sympathize with you. Keep at it and you will get it figured out. Good luck

[Band]

I thought I'd better act fast on this so I went to the place that put on my string to get it fixed and they had a sign that said "Sorry, the bow technician will not be in until 5 pm today".

[hughjorgan]

Did you get it fixed band?

[Band]

Yep, I took it to Denton at Rock Creek Archery in Enumclaw yesterday and he saw the nock position (and associated rest position) problem immediately.  He fixed me up and I took it home and promptly robin hooded arrow #1 with arrow #2 at 20 yards.  Woohoo!....oh, and d*mn!

I'm hoping to get out today and shoot at longer range so I can check arrow flight.  It shot a bullet hole in paper so I think I'm in the zone, just have to broadhead tune now.

I was impressed with Denton both personally and professionally.  No doubt this won't be the last time I visit his shop.

[Crunchy]

Good thing you figured it out as season opens soon.  I leave for elk camp in 10 days and would hate to have some significant bow issues this late in the game.  I screw on the broadheads from this point and only practice with them from this point on. 

[Band]

No kidding, I was starting to get desperate!  I would normally only being shooting broadheads by now too.  Lots of practice to get in a short amount of time now.

[hughjorgan]

Glad it was an easy fix. That should be a confidence booster.

[Band]

Wow, I can't help but wonder if there is some other factor in play here.  I just shot from 40 & 50 yards and although the corkscrewing arrow flight is gone there is still a pretty fair amount of fishtailing, even after left-right adjustments to the rest and vane contact to the bow has been eliminated.  I've got too much going on the next couple of days but I can see I have some more tinkering to do pretty quick to get this thing shooting darts again.

[Smossy]

Maybe improper spine?

[Jonathan_S]

I shoot blazers on micro diameter arrows and there is a tiny amount of fletch contact but I don't think it's hurting me??  My groups are tighter than I ever could have hoped a few months ago.
 

[Smossy]

I shoot blazers on micro diameter arrows and there is a tiny amount of fletch contact but I don't think it's hurting me??  My groups are tighter than I ever could have hoped a few months ago.
 

As far as I know, any contact period, can and will cause problems.

[Smossy]

Wow, I can't help but wonder if there is some other factor in play here.  I just shot from 40 & 50 yards and although the corkscrewing arrow flight is gone there is still a pretty fair amount of fishtailing, even after left-right adjustments to the rest and vane contact to the bow has been eliminated.  I've got too much going on the next couple of days but I can see I have some more tinkering to do pretty quick to get this thing shooting darts again.

Use bare shaft planing test to correct fishtailing. Shoot three fletched shafts at a distance of 15 to 20 yards then shoot two identically aimed "unfletched" shafts.. if the unfletched shaft impacts left (stiff) of the identically aimmed fletched shafts (for a right handed archer) either decrease the spring tension on your cushion plunger, increase bow weight slightly (if your bow weight is adjustable) or increase arrow point weight.

If the unflteched shafts impact right (weak) of the identically aimed, fletched shafts. Inrease the spring tension on your cushion plunger decrease bow weight slightly, or reduce arrow point weight.

Your equipment is basically tuned when the bare shafts and fletched shafts impact at the same or very near the same location.

[barracuda163]

I had to go to stiffer spine arrow than recommended with my outlaw, straightened my arrow flight out. Im not sure if this happens to a lot of people, but I'm ok with shooting what works.

[coachcw]

Yep, I took it to Denton at Rock Creek Archery in Enumclaw yesterday and he saw the nock position (and associated rest position) problem immediately.  He fixed me up and I took it home and promptly robin hooded arrow #1 with arrow #2 at 20 yards.  Woohoo!....oh, and d*mn!

I'm hoping to get out today and shoot at longer range so I can check arrow flight.  It shot a bullet hole in paper so I think I'm in the zone, just have to broadhead tune now.

I was impressed with Denton both personally and professionally.  No doubt this won't be the last time I visit his shop.

you need to raise your rest then reset your nock or dloop to level . It shouldn't be that close . and I wouldn't get away from blazers , a four fletch blazer in a x pattern works quiet well .

As I said , denton is a really good bow tech (play on words ) he is my goto guy. I never mess with bare shafts . pretty easy to figure out spine then shoot  paper , don't over think it !

[Band]

I had to go to stiffer spine arrow than recommended with my outlaw, straightened my arrow flight out. Im not sure if this happens to a lot of people, but I'm ok with shooting what works.

I did the same and the arrows were flying perfectly.  But those same arrows now have the fishtailing so it has to be something else.  I finally picked up my old bow which is still shooting very well, although a lot slower than my Outlaw, so I guess I'm going back to it this year.  Time is too short.