I was over in cowiche also, saw a couple of herds of cows 15-20 running like hell, all were withing shooting range hoping to see any horns. Talked to a guy up there and he said the muzzel load season was ever more crowded than it was this last weekend and a number of spikes were taken. I saw a camp with a little bear hanging but upon leaving I only heard of a couple of elk taken. I could not beleive how many hunters we saw canyon after canyon there was orange perched everywhere.