Your welcome Nez Pierce.

[inchtowntracking]

Man these threads get old. Not all of us Indians are that way, just like not all of Washington hunters are good up standing individuals.

[KillZ 4 Thrilz]

What does it matter if they were Yakama or Umatilla, they all do it! Its the furthest thing from hunting. 

[SCRUBS]

Man these threads get old. Not all of us Indians are that way, just like not all of Washington hunters are good up standing individuals.

 

[bowhunterforever]

Dam that sucks

[trophyhunt]

Man these threads get old. Not all of us Indians are that way, just like not all of Washington hunters are good up standing individuals.

 

they do get old but they will never go away, I don't ever see our government making things right and changing the rules to make all on the same level. And for the record, I have respect for a few Indians but not the ones who don't respect the game.

[snowpack]

Man these threads get old. Not all of us Indians are that way, just like not all of Washington hunters are good up standing individuals.

 

they do get old but they will never go away, I don't ever see our government making things right and changing the rules to make all on the same level. And for the record, I have respect for a few Indians but not the ones who don't respect the game.

I view it as a contract and would be concerned if the government decided to break it because of what else they would feel they could start breaking.  Unless the Indians are violating their terms, I can't see the government amending on their part.

[Simcoe hunter]

Man these threads get old. Not all of us Indians are that way, just like not all of Washington hunters are good up standing individuals.

You are correct Inch.  There were some Yakama's that I worked with who were good hunters.  Always got way back in on their rez and actually hunted.  But they were few and far between.  But with the "let's stick it to Whitey" attitude that is so prevalent clear to the tribal council level, there is a general lack of respect toward crackers.  In fact it's more of a how far can we go, there isn't anything they can do to us.

There was one guy at the mill in White Swan who used to brag about coming off the rez wherever he wanted.  I asked how he did that as there are a lot of fences along the top of the Simcoes to keep cattle off the rez.  He just smiled and showed me his wire cutters.

I remember selling a couple of the old Marlin Camp Carbines to some Yakamas a few years back.  We go to BS'ing and I asked what they were going to use them for.  They said hunting, of course.  I pried a little deeper and found out they drive the ridge road north of Goldendale from the end of August till the snow is too deep.  One guy drives and 2+ characters with semiautos stand in the back of the truck.  Then they just cruise until the driver sees an animal.  Once an animal is spotted the driver floors it and the yahoos in the back open fire.

Hmmm...

I know there are good and bad, on and off of the rez, native and otherwise.  But I agree that there ought to be some fair play required on both sides.  The tribes could do more to foster good relations.

That being said, I have to agree somewhat with Mr. Plateau.  It is completely possible for anyone to kill your animal on the way in to you.  I had a blind the first week of the season that I thought was out of sight and out of mind.  It was in a hole that was a pain to get to.  It was still hot and the elk weren't moving during the day.  The last evening I used I had some goof ball wanna-be bugler go off on the other side of the clearing.  He almost choked on his cow call too.  So even when we think we are alone, we may not be. 

And I am guessing from the tone of his bugling and cow calling that he was a redneck *censored*, approximately 35 years old.  Probably from the Vancouver area.  The gurgle sound in the cow call was probably Budweiser induced.  I also noted that he was mimicking a Primos outdoor video, circa 1993.

So I am sorry that your hunt didn't go well.  But anytime we go it is a crapshoot.  You may or may not be rewarded for your time and effort.  If you must fill a tag to feel successful I suggest another hobby that will guarantee more positive endings.

[PlateauNDN]

Man these threads get old. Not all of us Indians are that way, just like not all of Washington hunters are good up standing individuals.

 

they do get old but they will never go away, I don't ever see our government making things right and changing the rules to make all on the same level. And for the record, I have respect for a few Indians but not the ones who don't respect the game.

I view it as a contract and would be concerned if the government decided to break it because of what else they would feel they could start breaking.  Unless the Indians are violating their terms, I can't see the government amending on their part.

   even though the govt. Broke the Treaties over and ovrr and over again.  Oh and broke them first.

[trophyhunt]

Man these threads get old. Not all of us Indians are that way, just like not all of Washington hunters are good up standing individuals.

 

they do get old but they will never go away, I don't ever see our government making things right and changing the rules to make all on the same level. And for the record, I have respect for a few Indians but not the ones who don't respect the game.

I view it as a contract and would be concerned if the government decided to break it because of what else they would feel they could start breaking.  Unless the Indians are violating their terms, I can't see the government amending on their part.

it was written in way different times, many things have changed. Most tribes are well off, the mucks have more money than some small countries. The fish and game are the ones who get caught up in this mess. The Indians always say they are a separate nation, they want nothing to do with our government unless its a piece of paper giving them the right to net and fish at there free will. They need to change to damn treaty and get on the same playing field as us.

[PlateauNDN]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it by a piece of paper that was written long before the Treaties.....

[runamuk]

Did you stop and talk with them? They couldve been Yakama or umatilla so if we're gonna bash then we might want to be accurate as to not offend one or the other for somethimg they didn't do?

Actually doesn't it go a little further as well in holding individuals accountable if more info can be known about who is possibly hunting on the low end of the scale of decency?  Kinda like the guy who got pics of the rig and and camp sight that was all messed up, he has an actual plate number to turn over to the correct authorities so something can be done even if its just noted that this person/people are acting like dweebs giving their tribe a black eye.

[PlateauNDN]

 

[turkeyfeather]

I also agree that it's time that treaties and agreements need to be re-evaluated. I think the U.S. gov't has more than paid for the atrocities of hundreds of years ago. When are the tribes going to admit that they today enjoy the same lifestyle as any other racial group. Therefore they should also live by the same standards as any other racial group. There are exceptions to every rule, but in general natives have been notoriously lazy and just wanna keep crying for a handout.

[PlateauNDN]

An agreements an agreement, maybe it is time and maybe it isn't to re-evaluate but its not our decisions to make and I for one wouldn't support dissolution.

[turkeyfeather]

Why Plat? Don't you think it's fair that we all live by the same rules and regulations?