Wolf Attack at Harts Pass

[Boss .300 winmag]

According to WDFW the lookout pack was the first wolves in many years. 

They lie like a rug! Of course we all know this! 

[stocmamu]

From the latest WDFW Weekly Activity Report at: http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/about/wildlife_weekly/2013/wildlife_weekly_2013sep16.pdf

"Pasayten Wolf Mortality: Biologist Fitkin and U.S. Forest Service (USFS) Biologist Rohrer assisted Officers Christensen, McCormick and Treser with an investigation of a wolf killed by a hunter in the Pasayten Wilderness. The animal appeared to be a young, uncollared adult female in good condition. We have not previously verified wolf activity in this portion of the wilderness area and don’t know if the animal is part of an active pack or a solo wanderer. The circumstances of the animal’s death remain under investigation."

[boneaddict]

According to WDFW the lookout pack was the first wolves in many years. 

What a crock

[boneaddict]

Short version of whats up....   there have been wolves in the Pasayten for a long time.   My question is how all of a sudden, an animal that has been kept in check and hasn't been a problem is all of a sudden pert near as plentiful as pocket gophers.  Fewer rednecks taking care of business I guess.

[wolfbait]

According to WDFW the lookout pack was the first wolves in many years. 

What a crock

First wolf pack in 70 years, and Oregon came out with their own first wolf pack in 70 years the very same day. What a shock.

[Alchase]

But another question is, if it is a new pack, where will they go come winter?

They have been wintering right above Lundgrens and on Ramsey and that general area. 

Seriously? 
Right smack in the burn.
That sucks

"A single female with no known pack affiliation"

Funny how the talk about wolves in the same manner used for gang bangers. 

And just like gang bangers, if they admit she belongs to a pack, they would have to explain which pack they have a problem with. 

They sound just like Mayor McCheese from Seattle, "we have no gang problem"

[Skyvalhunter]

You can bet anything that comes out of Fitkins mouth is skewed. It's amazing what they do to cover things up or story fit their adgenda.

[mulehunter]

 

[Northway]

Short version of whats up....   there have been wolves in the Pasayten for a long time.   My question is how all of a sudden, an animal that has been kept in check and hasn't been a problem is all of a sudden pert near as plentiful as pocket gophers.  Fewer rednecks taking care of business I guess.

That's an interesting observation that I've also wondered about for multiple years now. It's rarely discussed, though.

According to DNA samples, some/most of the wolves currently in the North Cascades have dropped down from BC, and more specifically, DNA from wolves in both the Lookout and Teanaway Packs indicate they or their ancestors dropped down from what is considered the coastal region of BC.

It's my understanding that in certain regions of southern BC, wolf activity has increased over the last decade. If that is true, I believe it has had a significant impact on packs forming with a higher frequency in the North Cascades.

[Northway]

You can bet anything that comes out of Fitkins mouth is skewed. It's amazing what they do to cover things up or story fit their adgenda.

I've met Scott and my impression was that he's more interested in wolverines than wolves.

I'd bet a beer that the insults directed his way on Hunt WA are tame compared to what he hears from the Okanagan County Commissioners.

[mkcj]

I thought it was the male wolves that went on a walkabout and the young females stay with the pack.

[mountainman]

Short version of whats up....   there have been wolves in the Pasayten for a long time.   My question is how all of a sudden, an animal that has been kept in check and hasn't been a problem is all of a sudden pert near as plentiful as pocket gophers.  Fewer rednecks taking care of business I guess.

LOL! Yep, too many of us have moved away from the Methow my friend!

[AspenBud]

Short version of whats up....   there have been wolves in the Pasayten for a long time.   My question is how all of a sudden, an animal that has been kept in check and hasn't been a problem is all of a sudden pert near as plentiful as pocket gophers.  Fewer rednecks taking care of business I guess.

That's an interesting observation that I've also wondered about for multiple years now. It's rarely discussed, though.

According to DNA samples, some/most of the wolves currently in the North Cascades have dropped down from BC, and more specifically, DNA from wolves in both the Lookout and Teanaway Packs indicate they or their ancestors dropped down from what is considered the coastal region of BC.

It's my understanding that in certain regions of southern BC, wolf activity has increased over the last decade. If that is true, I believe it has had a significant impact on packs forming with a higher frequency in the North Cascades.

Have hunting practices regarding wolves in BC changed in that time? That would explain that I suspect. We don't have a very big hunting community in WA and I have a hard time believing it would have had that much of an impact since most don't hunt where the wolves have been up that way. But if BC wolves haven't been hunted like they used to be I don't think it would be too surprising to see the population we do now. Particularly with the population from Idaho et al coming in from the east at the same time.

[MtnMuley]

You can bet anything that comes out of Fitkins mouth is skewed. It's amazing what they do to cover things up or story fit their adgenda.

I've met Scott and my impression was that he's more interested in wolverines than wolves.

I'd bet a beer that the insults directed his way on Hunt WA are tame compared to what he hears from the Okanagan County Commissioners.

LOL......you should have seen him at the meeting last night with the commissioners there and the WDFW director, Phil Anderson.  Let's just say he sat quietly away from the crowd.   You are right though.  He definately cares more about the wolverines than the wolves, but cares ten times more about the wolves than he does the local muley populations and their health.

[mountainman]

Lol

Short version of whats up....   there have been wolves in the Pasayten for a long time.   My question is how all of a sudden, an animal that has been kept in check and hasn't been a problem is all of a sudden pert near as plentiful as pocket gophers.  Fewer rednecks taking care of business I guess.

That's an interesting observation that I've also wondered about for multiple years now. It's rarely discussed, though.

According to DNA samples, some/most of the wolves currently in the North Cascades have dropped down from BC, and more specifically, DNA from wolves in both the Lookout and Teanaway Packs indicate they or their ancestors dropped down from what is considered the coastal region of BC.

It's my understanding that in certain regions of southern BC, wolf activity has increased over the last decade. If that is true, I believe it has had a significant impact on packs forming with a higher frequency in the North Cascades.

Have hunting practices regarding wolves in BC changed in that time? That would explain that I suspect. We don't have a very big hunting community in WA and I have a hard time believing it would have had that much of an impact since most don't hunt where the wolves have been up that way. But if BC wolves haven't been hunted like they used to be I don't think it would be too surprising to see the population we do now. Particularly with the population from Idaho et al coming in from the east at the same time.

Do you mean dropped down or "dropped off"? The ones around here have been un-arguebly "dropped off"....