Government shutdown (as related to waterfowl hunting)

[300UltraMagShooter]

To all you personally affected, my condolences.

http://www.dol.gov/sequestration/ui-federalemployees.htm

Great.  Only people not working are "non-essential" government workers. 

I was thinking tax payers would get a little break, but guess that is a pipe dream.  Sign them up for taxpayer funded unemployment.  99 weeks still going on ?

[300UltraMagShooter]

What I don't understand is why they have to shutdown access to the refuges?  It's not like we need federal employees there to allow people to enter........... 

They do it the same reason they wanted to last year.  They are wanting people to feel as much pain as possible so people will look at government in such a way as to think they can't live without it.  The more pain people feel, the more they think they can get you to look at government as the solution.  Remember, they hate the private sector and love government controlling everything.  It all boils down to that when all is said and done.  You'll never hear a Democrat arguing for less government control "unless they are attacking Christians".

[npaull]

Remember, they hate the private sector and love government controlling everything

I think you've been drinking a little too much Limbaugh Kool-Aid. I've never met anyone who feels this way since the Soviet Union collapsed.

They can eliminate 2/3 of all gubmint programs and agencies and we would never notice.  We NEED to eliminate 2/3 of all gubmint agencies and programs!

Which ones? Let's see the list.

This is a ridiculous statement, flung out carelessly from a position of vague paranoia with regards to the government and absent any evidence of careful consideration about what the government programs actually provide.

[MtnMuley]

The government will shut down. The Republicans will be blamed.

The government will reopen. The Democrats will get the credit.

ObamaCare will be implemented. Everyone will suffer.

The Mariners will lose. Again and again.

4 sad facts of life

Bingo

[deaner]

To all you personally affected, my condolences.

http://www.dol.gov/sequestration/ui-federalemployees.htm

Great.  Only people not working are "non-essential" government workers. 

I was thinking tax payers would get a little break, but guess that is a pipe dream.  Sign them up for taxpayer funded unemployment.  99 weeks still going on ?

apparently non essential means at least some coast guard personnel.  ive spent most of my summer out at sea, and forgot one thing on my application for my merchant mariner officers license.   my deadline is oct 8th before it goes in the round file.  i submitted my final piece of paperwork via fax on friday, and calling them today got somebody on the line saying it has not been reviewed yet, and it cant right now because of the shut down.  coast guard personnel getting shut down doesnt seem right to me at all.

[300UltraMagShooter]

Remember, they hate the private sector and love government controlling everything

I think you've been drinking a little too much Limbaugh Kool-Aid. I've never met anyone who feels this way since the Soviet Union collapsed.

Oh, is that right.  Well then, let's get back to reality.  If the Democrats love the private sector so much, I'm sure you'll find me "one" time "any" Democrat wrote any bill that limited the size and reach of the Federal government?  This should be easy for you non-koolaid drinkers.  Ready?  Go....

I'll be here holding my breath.   You wont be able to do it of course, but you will still live in your Kool-Aid drink world. 

[scout/sniper]

What people are missing and should be asking.   What in the world is the Federal government doing owning all this land and when did it get this big and out of control?

Oh well, let the games play out.  We'll get nothing and the yellow Republicans will cave.

How do you get people to fight for freedom when they are like rats born in a cage...  they don't even know they are no longer free.

You can't get people to fight for freedom because of the evidence in these threads.
We all want to fight each other for no legitimate reason other than jealousy over employment.
People only care about what affects them directly and to hell with everyone else.
If people would stand behind their big mouths and band together we could change things.
Running in all directions with torches and pitchforks will accomlpish nothing and that is what everyone is doing.

[Fl0und3rz]

Might I direct the torch and pitchfork people in this direction?

[Heredoggydoggy]

As a side note, WalMart, the biggest retailer in the nation is NOT ordering extra merchandise in anticipation of the Christmas season.  Like the guy in Jurassic Park said:  "Hang on to Your Butts!"

[deaner]

As a side note, WalMart, the biggest retailer in the nation is NOT ordering extra merchandise in anticipation of the Christmas season.  Like the guy in Jurassic Park said:  "Hang on to Your Butts!"

close but no cigar

Hold Onto Your Butts

[scout/sniper]

Might I direct the torch and pitchfork people in this direction?

  You got it!

[Sumpnneedskillin]

Excerpt from an Army Corps of Engineers Walla Walla District press release 


 Visitor Centers, campgrounds, boat launches and day-use facilities will be unsupported or closed at all Corps locks and dams. Affected recreation areas would not return to normal until after the shutdown is lifted. The following notice will be posted at closed facilities:

     “Effective Tuesday, October 1, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has closed all Corps-operated   

     campgrounds and day-use parks nationwide as a result of the federal government shutdown.  Visitors     

     currently camping at Corps campgrounds will be required to vacate by 8 p.m. local on Wednesday,

     October 2, and no new visitors or reservations will be accepted until after the federal government

     shutdown ends.  We regret the impacts of these required actions on the recreating public, and will make

     every attempt to inform the public when these facilities reopen. Paid reservations will be fully refunded   

     at either the customer's request or automatically after the reservation departure date during the closure

     period. To request a refund please contact the reservation customer service at 1-888-448-1474 (TDD 1-877-833-6777).”

However, Corps parks leased to partner agencies and concessionaires will remain open, but cannot be supported by the Corps while the shutdown is in place.

·   Vessel navigation would continue to remain available through the Walla Walla District’s navigation locks.

·   Hydropower operations will continue, as will flood-damage reduction and other emergency response activities. Security will remain in place at all Corps dams.

·   Public vehicle crossings over Lower Granite, Little Goose and Lower Monumental dams are currently still being allowed. Travelers are encouraged to call 1-888-DAM-INFO (1-888-326-4636) for the most up-to-date dam-crossing schedules and information.

[BiggLuke]

What people are missing and should be asking.   What in the world is the Federal government doing owning all this land and when did it get this big and out of control?

Oh well, let the games play out.  We'll get nothing and the yellow Republicans will cave.

How do you get people to fight for freedom when they are like rats born in a cage...  they don't even know they are no longer free.

You can't get people to fight for freedom because of the evidence in these threads.
We all want to fight each other for no legitimate reason other than jealousy over employment.
People only care about what affects them directly and to hell with everyone else.
If people would stand behind their big mouths and band together we could change things.
Running in all directions with torches and pitchforks will accomlpish nothing and that is what everyone is doing.

Hells yeah. I got yer back Scout.   

[scout/sniper]

What people are missing and should be asking.   What in the world is the Federal government doing owning all this land and when did it get this big and out of control?

Oh well, let the games play out.  We'll get nothing and the yellow Republicans will cave.

How do you get people to fight for freedom when they are like rats born in a cage...  they don't even know they are no longer free.

You can't get people to fight for freedom because of the evidence in these threads.
We all want to fight each other for no legitimate reason other than jealousy over employment.
People only care about what affects them directly and to hell with everyone else.
If people would stand behind their big mouths and band together we could change things.
Running in all directions with torches and pitchforks will accomplish nothing and that is what everyone is doing.

Hells yeah. I got yer back Scout.   

    Glad to see someone gets it!

[scout/sniper]

I'm going to be out in the Conboy refuge friday checking it out. The gov dont like it, they can lump it.

That land belongs to WE THE PEOPLE. You have every right to go there.