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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #90 on: November 06, 2013, 11:12:02 AM »
Hundreds if not thousands of posts made by the individuals you mention are a matter of public record. Anyone who is curious about their interactions is free to perform their own research and make a judgment.

Bob Fanning ran for governor of Montana. Many details of that unsuccessful campaign are also a matter of public record.

If you cast your lot with those folks, obviously it's your call.
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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #91 on: November 06, 2013, 02:52:46 PM »
I think Scott Rockholm got ran off of here a few years ago.  He's a top notch conspiracy theorist and doesn't seem to be reasonable.

So, let me get this straight Wolfbait- Because you "personally know" Scott Rockholm and Bob Fanning It somehow gives you credibility???   :chuckle: :chuckle:  Who are you to ask Northway if he's got credentials??   :rolleyes:

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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #92 on: November 06, 2013, 04:29:34 PM »
Top notch show, both of them!!   :tup:

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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #93 on: November 06, 2013, 05:10:29 PM »
I think Scott Rockholm got ran off of here a few years ago.  He's a top notch conspiracy theorist and doesn't seem to be reasonable.

So, let me get this straight Wolfbait- Because you "personally know" Scott Rockholm and Bob Fanning It somehow gives you credibility???   :chuckle: :chuckle:  Who are you to ask Northway if he's got credentials??   :rolleyes:

You always come through wacoyote,  how do you eat with both feet stuck in your tooth?  :dunno:


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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #95 on: November 06, 2013, 05:49:38 PM »
wolfbait asked, "When you can no longer hunt etc. ask yourselves what you might have done to preserve your hunting rights and access to public lands"

If we lose the right to hunt and access public lands it will be because the non-hunting, but voting, majority of the public starts to hear people like rockholm, wolfbait, etc. drown out good men like the Randy Newberg's of the world.  Fortunately, wolfbait et al. have no credibility with game commissioners, elected officials, and policy makers and I doubt any but the most intellectually challenged would ever take them seriously. 
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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #96 on: November 11, 2013, 07:29:43 AM »
http://www.idahoforwildlife.com/Scott%20Rockholm.html
I think Scott Rockholm got ran off of here a few years ago.  He's a top notch conspiracy theorist and doesn't seem to be reasonable.

So, let me get this straight Wolfbait- Because you "personally know" Scott Rockholm and Bob Fanning It somehow gives you credibility???   :chuckle: :chuckle:  Who are you to ask Northway if he's got credentials??   :rolleyes:

You always come through wacoyote,  how do you eat with both feet stuck in your tooth?  :dunno:


Hahaha hmmmmmm. You were saying something about credentials...

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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2013, 07:15:55 PM »
There are a lot of different folks involved in all sides of the wolf debate. Sometimes it's tough to know who is honest and beneficial and who is not. Just as it's hard to know which people in our agencies we can trust for fair and honest work.  :twocents:

Regarding the original post, Newberg sent me some videos to watch, unfortunately I haven't had time to watch yet, but I will. Thanks Randy! I also have spoke to the director of the Montana Outfitters Association of which I am a member and I can say there is concern. I don't have any specific details yet, so I am unable to make further judgment or comment on that controversy.

There are some wolf lovers on this forum who try to say wolves do not impact our herds, even the IDFG and MFWP admit wolves have had significant impacts on numerous herds in their states, these same wolf lovers try to pass off these wolf impacted areas as being unaffected, I would say that pretty much reveals the personal agenda of these wolf lovers and generally discredits the honesty or intellect of their comments in my mind.  :twocents:
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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #98 on: November 13, 2013, 08:01:54 AM »
Another interesting area is the book cliffs in Utah. It's full of roads and all kinds of oil and gas exploration, but also has excellent elk and deer hunting, sort of shows how false the theory is that elk and deer can't do well around roads and human activity.

 :tup: I spend alot of time in this oil field you speak of and yes the herds thrive there....
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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #99 on: November 13, 2013, 08:29:52 AM »
Another interesting area is the book cliffs in Utah. It's full of roads and all kinds of oil and gas exploration, but also has excellent elk and deer hunting, sort of shows how false the theory is that elk and deer can't do well around roads and human activity.

 :tup: I spend alot of time in this oil field you speak of and yes the herds thrive there....

Is the book cliffs a limited quota hunt or is it an any buck/bull area? 
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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #100 on: November 13, 2013, 09:27:25 AM »
..................arm chairs lawyers I say, we have a lot of them.
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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #101 on: November 15, 2013, 08:14:28 AM »
Another interesting area is the book cliffs in Utah. It's full of roads and all kinds of oil and gas exploration, but also has excellent elk and deer hunting, sort of shows how false the theory is that elk and deer can't do well around roads and human activity.

 :tup: I spend alot of time in this oil field you speak of and yes the herds thrive there....

Is the book cliffs a limited quota hunt or is it an any buck/bull area?

Limited quota

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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #102 on: November 15, 2013, 08:19:47 AM »
Another interesting area is the book cliffs in Utah. It's full of roads and all kinds of oil and gas exploration, but also has excellent elk and deer hunting, sort of shows how false the theory is that elk and deer can't do well around roads and human activity.

 :tup: I spend alot of time in this oil field you speak of and yes the herds thrive there....

Is the book cliffs a limited quota hunt or is it an any buck/bull area?

Limited quota

Which in essence is no different than limiting access via a trespass fee, wilderness access, etc.

Open the Book Cliffs up to a general hunt like the one in the Scapegoat/Bob Marshall complex and see how the hunting is.
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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #103 on: November 15, 2013, 08:31:52 AM »
The Bob and other wilderness limit access to most hunters who cannot access it, so there you go.  :chuckle:
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Re: Fresh Tracks TV Series Supports The Loss Of Big Game Hunting Opportunities
« Reply #104 on: November 15, 2013, 09:52:39 AM »
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Another interesting area is the book cliffs in Utah. It's full of roads and all kinds of oil and gas exploration, but also has excellent elk and deer hunting, sort of shows how false the theory is that elk and deer can't do well around roads and human activity.

 :tup: I spend alot of time in this oil field you speak of and yes the herds thrive there....
JLS hit the nail on the head.  The roads themselves do not cause elk and deer to die...it is the access they provide to hunters that make too many roads problematic...unless you limit harvest some other way like having limited tags.   But if you have a general hunt area...totally different story.  So, no, it does not show how false the theory is that deer and elk can't do well around roads and human activity...apples and oranges. 
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