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Offline Jingles

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2013, 07:43:05 PM »
I did a quick figure of the deer per acre and came up with 1 deer for every 123 acres in the 10 unit's that make up the methow, Now take into account that maybe half of those deer live in or near the valley floor all year and that's not many left to populate the close to 2 million acres that are left. Now those are rough figures but can you imagine if there is only 15K deer instead of 25K. :bash: I hope my number are wrong but I think there pretty close :twocents: There are so few deer now that they live in their winter range all year long because the food supply never runs out, why migrate if they are not forced to in the spring! I think most migrating deer/ bucks that do never make it to the true winter range except on very bad winters anymore.

Bet they are adding the 6 that visit my yard daily and the 20 - 25 that visit my brothers place on a regular basis
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Re: methow observations
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2013, 08:21:07 PM »
 been hunting Winthrop the last 6 years love the area but this will be my last year in there time to start looking for a new area :(

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2013, 08:42:52 PM »
It wasnt to bad this year for muzzy season opening morning i woke up late and hung around camp to start a fire and get coffee going.  I didnt start hunting until 7:00 am.  I walked over the hill and seen deer in my binos.  Noticed one was a buck and headed down the hill to get closer because my ranger finder wouldnt read out pass 600 yards i got with in 350 yards and realized he was a bigger buck then i thought.  So i just followed him staying down wind and closed the gap to right around 100 yards when i finally seen him bedded down next to a spike and two point that were standing staring at me while i crawled around to get close.   Finally they took off and he was last in line and i shot him on the run just behind the right shoulder quatered away running.  Awesome hunt.   A good friend told me that if you want to shoot a buck over here you have to try and make it happen.   So thats what i did.  10:30Am his dad showed up with the mules and we packed it out.   So id say my methow observation was pretty dang good.  Good luck to you modern guys its pumpkin patch opening morning.

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2013, 09:28:02 PM »
It wasnt to bad this year for muzzy season opening morning i woke up late and hung around camp to start a fire and get coffee going.  I didnt start hunting until 7:00 am.  I walked over the hill and seen deer in my binos.  Noticed one was a buck and headed down the hill to get closer because my ranger finder wouldnt read out pass 600 yards i got with in 350 yards and realized he was a bigger buck then i thought.  So i just followed him staying down wind and closed the gap to right around 100 yards when i finally seen him bedded down next to a spike and two point that were standing staring at me while i crawled around to get close.   Finally they took off and he was last in line and i shot him on the run just behind the right shoulder quatered away running.  Awesome hunt.   A good friend told me that if you want to shoot a buck over here you have to try and make it happen.   So thats what i did.  10:30Am his dad showed up with the mules and we packed it out.   So id say my methow observation was pretty dang good.  Good luck to you modern guys its pumpkin patch opening morning.

nicely done, good lookin animal,congrats

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Five or six years of hunting the pumpkin patch with no luck.  And three years of muzzy season with quite a few people and finally getting the chance.  Its not like i use to here about.  Even in the nine or so years ive hunted there has been a drastic decline in deer ive seen just in the fields.  I remeber seeing hundreds of deer in the alfalfa fields , but now you might see 20 to 30.
Its crazy.  Like my buddy told me. Your not going to get a deer, unless you make it happen.  When it comes down to it.  Its all about how you hunt.  If you sit in the truck your not going to shoot a deer.  Unless your lucky. 

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2013, 09:42:44 PM »
I used to hunt my aunt and uncles place in Carlton every year. Always knew where the big boys hung out. Haven't been over in the last 5 years (since the state bought it) but can bet all the old hangouts dried up now the wolves are there. Might give it a try though just to see.
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Re: methow observations
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2013, 05:47:24 PM »
Those were the days and that was one of my favorite hunts.    I could also go out before work during the season and count 200 plus deer on my morning hunt in the sage during the season.   I am not sure I could count that many deer in the whole season now in the same spots.

Yes sir,those were the days.I remember in the late 70's i believe,a couple huntin pards and i were hunting one of the main migration ridges and once again the season went into the 1st week of november,the weather hit about 10 days prior and storm after storm was pounding the high country.The deer couldnt get out of there fast enough!!We knew (about) where the biggest concentrations would be comming thru and we knew they would start spreading out once the started getting closer to the valley.I'll be darned if we didnt hit the locations dead center(a little luck was involved with the hunch :chuckle:0)we must of saw 150 to 200 head a day in bunchs of 20 to 60 in a bunch.Now having said that youd probably assume we tagged out right off the bat.No sir! we hunted that ridge for 5 days straight,seeing close to 1000 deer and never a  horn until the 6th day :yike:,the 1st 5 days were all does and fawns not even a spike! On that 6th day the bucks started rolling thru and the 3 of us got some beauties.To this day a hunt i'll never forget.

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2013, 08:13:03 PM »
The best way to make your voice heard is during the time frame when they accept comments makes sure to write a letter. I do it every year but it has to be done by more than just a few.

They've definitely gotten plenty of letters, phone calls and emails from me also but like you stated Skyvalhunter, they need to hear from lots of us rather than just a couple.
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Re: methow observations
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2013, 05:51:17 PM »
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Too many folks living in their traditional wintering grounds.  Just like most other places in the west

NO WHERE NEAR enough concern about this issue among hunters. Wolves get all the attention. Habitat loss so much more sinister and hard to fix...

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2013, 06:02:46 PM »

People are greedy and stupid.
The commercialization of hunting and fishing will be the end of it.........soon.

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2013, 06:31:27 PM »
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Too many folks living in their traditional wintering grounds.  Just like most other places in the west

NO WHERE NEAR enough concern about this issue among hunters. Wolves get all the attention. Habitat loss so much more sinister and hard to fix...

Sad but true............. :yeah:

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2013, 08:37:21 PM »
Well people are frustrated with the whole situation over there. The weekend hunters get all gun ho for a day and a half and the next thing you know they want to sight in their rifles. Would be nice if they opened up wolf season so the younger deer have a chance.
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Re: methow observations
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2013, 03:15:26 PM »
Speaking of the migration.....usually really starts about Thursday afternoon, but I bet there are some RVs on the road tonight.   Our gas station was busier than you can ever imagine this time of year.  Saw some good bucks go through.  That was when it was acceptable to tie them in front and on top. :chuckle:  I wonder how many of you people I have actually met and or your fathers or grandfathers. :chuckle:

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2013, 03:18:27 PM »
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Too many folks living in their traditional wintering grounds.  Just like most other places in the west

NO WHERE NEAR enough concern about this issue among hunters. Wolves get all the attention. Habitat loss so much more sinister and hard to fix...
Back in the day when monster bucks roamed Studhorse instead of Subaru outbacks. :(

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2013, 04:19:59 PM »
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Too many folks living in their traditional wintering grounds.  Just like most other places in the west

NO WHERE NEAR enough concern about this issue among hunters. Wolves get all the attention. Habitat loss so much more sinister and hard to fix...
Back in the day when monster bucks roamed Studhorse instead of Subaru outbacks. :(

I cant recall a name but i remember stories of when studhorse was owned by an older couple i think,and they would charge people $1 to hunt it :dunno:. Used to here of some dandy's comming off that hill. Also Oly lungren used to tell my grandpa and grandma they could drag all the deer they wanted to off the bluffs above the ranch right down the hill to the road,just had to pay a tres
pass fee.....he told them they had to buy a jug of his apple cider everytime they did,they negotiated the trespass fee of a buck a gallon,Oly and my granparents figured that was fair,"a buck for a buck" :chuckle: :chuckle: my dad remembers when ever they hunted his property the family was going home with a lot of cider after 2 weeks of hunting :chuckle:

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Re: methow observations
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2013, 04:25:54 PM »
You're sure bring back some old names.  Remembering stories I had forgotten.  Funny how one name triggers several stories about several others. :tup:

 


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