Gun rights after you complete your sentence.

[bowbuild]

Jls,

                 Thats's what they were told, and he said he would cart him off to jail if they had one.....I personally would have said get the cuffs ready! Po officers are cops that couldn't make the grade in my opinion. I suspect the judge lawfull, or not, would look at it as not being cooperative with the officer......and we know how the judge would most likely react to that.....don't we.

Bowbuild

[JLS]

Regardless of what the PO officer said, anyone with a law degree that they purchased in Sri Lanka or Honduras could defeat that charge in all of about 60 seconds.  Possibly less.

It doesn't matter what a judge's reaction is.  A BB gun is not a firearm by definition.

[bowbuild]

No it doesnt, it happens everyday. everyone has different cicumstances. A rotten woman can ru ok n your life with the help from the state and a lawyer. Happens to good people all the time.

How many decisions did it take to get stuck with this rotten woman?  How many rum and cokes?  How many kids?

Damn dude you must be DON JUAN of women, you have them that figured out....sounds like you should write a book letting the rest of us know when to turn and run.....bet you will have quite the following! Now you just sit back and tip back another rum and coke while typing in your wisdom!

[bowbuild]

Regardless of what the PO officer said, anyone with a law degree that they purchased in Sri Lanka or Honduras could defeat that charge in all of about 60 seconds.  Possibly less.

It doesn't matter what a judge's reaction is.  A BB gun is not a firearm by definition.

Jls,
            Come on guy, you know a felon pulled in front of a judge is NOT going to see his PO get his butt handed to him. Let's not forget the costs invovled with having your lawyer fight a bogus charge! The smartest thing for him to do was to hand him the definition of a firearm, but this PO is about as smart and arrogant as they come!

Bowbuild

[JLS]

Regardless of what the PO officer said, anyone with a law degree that they purchased in Sri Lanka or Honduras could defeat that charge in all of about 60 seconds.  Possibly less.

It doesn't matter what a judge's reaction is.  A BB gun is not a firearm by definition.

Jls,
            Come on guy, you know a felon pulled in front of a judge is NOT going to see his PO get his butt handed to him. Let's not forget the costs invovled with having your lawyer fight a bogus charge! The smartest thing for him to do was to hand him the definition of a firearm, but this PO is about as smart and arrogant as they come!

Bowbuild

If they are just willing to accept this, I don't know what to say. 

(7) "Firearm" means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder.

I've had my azz handed to me by a judge before when I was wrong, I don't know why a PO would be any different.

[Smossy]

In the scenario given, I believe the wife does have the right to have a firearm in their house for self defense. I don't see how they can tell her she cannot have one. I would have one if I were her, and just wouldn't tell anyone about it.

If she were a hunter, she surely would need rifles and/or shotguns. In that case, lock them up in a safe. And as far as anyone else knows, she is the only one that has access to those guns in the safe. (even if that was not the case)

Your right Bobcat, She is perfectly within her rights to still have a firearm, But just like KFhunter said, She just taking on more responsibility. For both her and him both. Me and the Lady have talked to law enforcement regarding this and as long as its secured in some type of safe with limited access, or Its secured on person (i.e. concealed)

I'm beginning to think bowbuild is in some weird state of delirium tbh.

Also to add to KFhunter's comment, A guy should be able to live with that perfectly fine. Its not hard to be responsible.

Unless I'm missing something here... I chose not to read the whole thread, Seems like lots of bickering.

[coachcw]

I had a discussion about this with my Father in Law a few weeks back. In my mind, every action taken is a choice and every action has a consequence. In this scenario the felon made the decision to commit the crime. Then the wife made the decision to stay with the felon.

So my short answer is no, a felon's gun rights should not be restored. It's all about actions and consequences/ cause and effect. The individual chose to violate the law, so he/she also chose to accept the consequences that go with it. The spouse chose to stay with the felon, so he/she chose to accept the consequences of that decision.

Andrew

very good answer , choices where made. I don't want any felon living near me to have a gun , what's one more poor choice ( maybe a bullet headed towards and innocent victim ). There are exceptions I'm sure but do we want more government to figure it out and police it ? (not me). It seems to me like these folks just want a gun in the house for some reason. there are plenty of forms of protection other than fire arms . what about a tazzer , alarm , dog. motion lights , billy clubs ex. really if she wants a firearm it sounds like she can have one just not in the house that her felon husband resides in . no reason she cant store them elsewhere.

[JLS]

By marrying and living with a convicted felon, she should not and does not give up HER constitutional rights.  She obviously takes on higher obligation of responsibility.

"she could have a tazer"  guess who some of you folks are sounding like now?

[Smossy]

Regardless of what the PO officer said, anyone with a law degree that they purchased in Sri Lanka or Honduras could defeat that charge in all of about 60 seconds.  Possibly less.

It doesn't matter what a judge's reaction is.  A BB gun is not a firearm by definition.

Jls,
            Come on guy, you know a felon pulled in front of a judge is NOT going to see his PO get his butt handed to him. Let's not forget the costs invovled with having your lawyer fight a bogus charge! The smartest thing for him to do was to hand him the definition of a firearm, but this PO is about as smart and arrogant as they come!

Bowbuild

FYI, They're not called PO's anymore, Its called a community custody officer.

Also, a Felon is 100% perfectly within his legal rights to own ANY air rifle (including a bb gun), even an air rifle that shoots .357 slugs like the Benjamin Rogue .357
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/rifles/pcp/BPE3571


A muzzleloader defined by the Fed's is not even considered a firearm, but In the state of Washington it is, Therefor a felon may not possess a muzzeloader in the state of Washington but he may in a different state that do's not consider it a firearm.

[coachcw]

the facts are that once someone has committed a violent crime he or she is more likely to reoffend at some point . I really don't see our system rehabbing most felons . I believe that the ones that change have done so on there own .

[snowpack]

This included a BB gun, which by state law to my knowledge is NOT considered a firearm....going way to far in my opinion.

Okay, I'm going to throw the BS flag on this one.  If someone can't figure out that a BB gun does not meet the definition of a firearm, well I don't know what to say.

Well the BATFE seized a big shipment of airsoft guns, they were convinced they were firearms.  Their claim was that airsoft guns had parts that were identical and unregistered to the parts of firearms.  (For one model, they claimed the lower on an airsoft M4 could be mated with an AR upper and make a full auto M4.) 

[Smossy]

By marrying and living with a convicted felon, she should not and does not give up HER constitutional rights.  She obviously takes on higher obligation of responsibility.

"she could have a tazer"  guess who some of you folks are sounding like now?

100% right JLS

[Smossy]

the facts are that once someone has committed a violent crime he or she is more likely to reoffend at some point . I really don't see our system rehabbing most felons . I believe that the ones that change have done so on there own .

Yup, There is not very much "Correction" In the correctional facilities. You can take my word for that one. The person has to want to change and live a different lifestyle.

[Smossy]

This included a BB gun, which by state law to my knowledge is NOT considered a firearm....going way to far in my opinion.

Okay, I'm going to throw the BS flag on this one.  If someone can't figure out that a BB gun does not meet the definition of a firearm, well I don't know what to say.

Well the BATFE seized a big shipment of airsoft guns, they were convinced they were firearms.  Their claim was that airsoft guns had parts that were identical and unregistered to the parts of firearms.  (For one model, they claimed the lower on an airsoft M4 could be mated with an AR upper and make a full auto M4.) 

That's all bologna, That whole airsoft parts thing was a myth like saying a potato works as a suppressor. Not possible.

[bowbuild]

Thanks Smossy!