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Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« on: October 09, 2013, 10:53:55 AM »
Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst

USSA Calls on President Obama to Take Action

(Columbus) – As Washington D.C. faces another government shutdown, hunters, anglers and trappers across the country are facing a shutdown of their own.  From Alaska to Florida, sportsmen and women are finding that the budgetary standoff in Congress is having a direct impact on their hunting or fishing season.

The federal government has issued directives to “close” accessible public lands and waters while the government is “shutdown.”  At stake are millions of acres of public land administered by agencies such as the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and National Park Service (NPS).  For decades the public has been free to access these lands for recreational purposes—including hunting, fishing and trapping—without securing any specific form of permission or authorization.  But now, these agencies are being told to close access to their lands because of the standoff taking place over funding the federal government.

“These lands are generally accessible to the public without special entrance fees, passage through gates, or access via controlled roads or waterways,” said Nick Pinizzotto, USSA President and CEO.  “Not only are these closures unnecessary, they run contrary to law.  This is ‘political theatre’ at its very worst.

The U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance delivered a letter to President Obama today demanding that these closures be lifted to allow American hunters and anglers to once again pursue their way of life. Click here to read the letter.

These closures are occurring on lands where federal law mandates hunting and where hunting is statutorily determined to be a “priority public use.”  Lack of an agreement on a federal budget does not terminate the effect of the law which clearly allows for hunting.

In 1995 and 1996, the federal government went through a similar situation as Congress and the White House locked horns.  The ensuing “shutdown” did not result in closure orders for accessible public lands.

“It’s a shame that these closures are being implemented as a punishment against sportsmen and women,” said Pinizzotto.  “These lands are our lands, and American sportsmen and women—and the general public—deserve better than this.”
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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 11:55:21 AM »
It's just another manifestation of the war that the current administration has declared on the citizens, though so far, I have not seen any national forest shutdowns, and people don't hunt in national parks.

Of course, we've all seen this creeping up for a long time.. Road de-commissionings, wilderness area 'buffer" zones, ad infinitum... May as well go for the whole enchilada.

This shutdown impasse would be the perfect excuse for Obama to hurt the the people he thinks voted against him. First the vets. Now the sportsmen and women, provided the NSSA is correct.

Has it occurred to anyone that the prez "negotiates" like a Chicago street hustler?   :dunno:

Has it occurred to anyone that the "shut down" really hasn't bothered average Joe Blow gun people so far? NICS is up and running. I hunted on national forest land last weekend.

Maybe what we're seeing is that we the people really don't need all that government after all.  And if they do try to shut down all the forests...who is going to enforce that against an army of gun-toting hunters, eh?



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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 12:21:42 PM »

Has it occurred to anyone that the prez "negotiates" like a Chicago street hustler?   :dunno:


If it looks like a duck.....

I know people from the chicago area and NONE of them have good things to say about the politicians in that area.... "The Godfather" was based out of Chicago, some people seem to forget this.  :bash:
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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2013, 09:10:29 PM »
Obumbles is pulling all of this crap to save face....which he can't, because he knows he's the worst prez ever. He hasn't done squat about anything in this country.  :bash:
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 09:18:38 PM »

Has it occurred to anyone that the prez "negotiates" like a Chicago street hustler?   :dunno:


If it looks like a duck.....

I know people from the chicago area and NONE of them have good things to say about the politicians in that area.... "The Godfather" was based out of Chicago, some people seem to forget this.  :bash:

The Godfather was in Brooklyn.   Long way from Capone's Chicago

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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 08:50:15 AM »
Why aren't they shutting down Forest Service and BLM land, too?  The reason is because it would be simply impossible and would create an explosion of opposition and civil disobedience.  If it was truly necessary for "safety" they would have to close ALL public lands to entry.  So, that shows clearly that shutting down entry to NPS and USFWS isn't a necessity, but grandstanding.  Trends to shut down every time the Dems and Reps squabble makes it less likely to take land from the USFS and add it to the Park Service NPS (like is proposed at Mt St Helens).

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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 09:00:50 AM »
Are there really any Federal Lands in our state that are shut down? The area I am planning on hunting this weekend is Federal ground... no idea who to call and check.

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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 09:03:12 AM »
Why aren't they shutting down Forest Service and BLM land, too?  The reason is because it would be simply impossible

They can shut down NPS and other lands, because those lands ostensibly require a fee, implied permission or permit to use.  There is no such mechanism on USFS lands.  Fee's are expressly prohibited on USFS land 16USC 6802(e)(2)


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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 09:08:17 AM »
Lots of Fed refuge lands are closed here...Little Pend Oreille for sure.

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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 09:32:42 AM »
‘Heavily armed’ citizens descending on federal lands
 
They will arrive with loaded rifles, shotguns and handguns, they will be wearing everything from camouflage to fluorescent orange, and as the Everett Herald reports today, nobody will be stopping the army of hunters headed afield for this weekend’s general deer season opener in Washington State.
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/heavily-armed-citizens-descending-on-federal-lands
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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 09:41:16 AM »
Extorsion.  He should be in prison. This country is screwed. There is no accountability for the criminals in D.C. And they know it. Martial law is coming our way.

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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 11:39:11 AM »

Write the President and let him know that he and his administration are clearly to blame for this mess and that what he is doing is unforgivable.  His political grandstanding at the expense of American citizens is obvious as ever.  His finger pointing goes right back at him.

If you are tired of Obama's political BS, let him know it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments


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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 05:41:44 PM »

Write the President and let him know that he and his administration are clearly to blame for this mess and that what he is doing is unforgivable.  His political grandstanding at the expense of American citizens is obvious as ever.  His finger pointing goes right back at him.

If you are tired of Obama's political BS, let him know it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments


You seem to have Barack Obama confused with someone who gives a rip what you think.
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Re: Federal Land Closures: Political Theatre at its Worst
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 05:43:35 PM »
 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:   Hes not worthy of a single key stroke.............he is president NOT becuase of middle America, but despite it.

 


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