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Offline grundy53

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Re: Green Diamond to charge next year?
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2013, 09:15:08 AM »
You get to join the Pumpkin patch on DNR and Federal lands....

You could SEE that one coming, Hancock, Weyco, now Simpson (Green Diamond), wait for Plum Ck and Pt Blakely to follow suit along with Rayonier Timberlands and the rest...pay to play is becoming the way of the landed.
Rayonier already did this. They started a couple years ago. Before weyco.

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Re: Green Diamond to charge next year?
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2013, 10:07:18 AM »
The "story" behind Texas is that the private land owners used to allow pretty much free access to large ranches.  The possibility of making a buck where there wasn't one before killed free access.  The difference between Texas and Washington is that those private land owners didn't have to answer to the state like the timber companies do.  the change over happened darned near overnight.

Another twist to the Texas story is that 94% of the land is privately owned, unlike Washington where there is a lot of public land (both state and federal) for people to access. I lived in Texas for 5 years and it was a pain to hunt. The cheapest hunting lease I could find was $1,200 per year and most hunting leases had a waiting list. Even paying into a hunting lease didn't guarantee you would have a quality hunt. On some leases hunters had to schedule or put their name on a list of what days they wanted to hunt and what stands or blinds they would like to hunt. I sure hope Washington does  not become like this.
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Re: Green Diamond to charge next year?
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2013, 10:20:16 AM »
The "story" behind Texas is that the private land owners used to allow pretty much free access to large ranches.  The possibility of making a buck where there wasn't one before killed free access.  The difference between Texas and Washington is that those private land owners didn't have to answer to the state like the timber companies do.  the change over happened darned near overnight.
Part of what I've read about the Texas story is that it was the hunters not the landowners that created the lock up.  It mentioned how people were generally happy with just taking deer every season and thought paying for them was nonsense and really didn't put huge value in horns.  Then big buck fever took hold and people were wanting B&C/P&Y deer.  The state wasn't managing deer the way the trophy hunters wanted them to, so hunters went to landowners to prevent others from hunting that private property.  (Ex.  on a lease you can require all deer shot be over 8 pts, if it is free/open to public you can't prevent the young bucks from being shot; under the lease system you can try to grow big trophy bucks for the future seasons)  Now the individual tracts of land/herds tend to be managed by the leaseholders as long as they fall within some really basic guidelines set from the state.

 


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