CURRENTLY WDFW FEDERAL AGENTS SHOOTING 15 bulls in Skagit River Unit!!!!

[huntnphool]

I received what I feel is the final conformation just now.

This is happening. Shooters from the USDA are doing it. I have known this person more than 20 years. He is straight up with me.

He said in a short answer to a email I sent  Yes by the USDA.

So I was a doubter, now I am 100% convinced.

To the OP thank you for the heads up.


For myself I am sickened . The elk are a problem, but hunters could have been part of the solution. Why not shoot them if they must and let un filled tag holders tag the meat. At least some of the folks who plug down there cash for tags and permit draws could maybe get some thing back.

The USDA?  This is comical on so many different levels!

[Mfowl]

What a shame! Not only are hunters denied opportunity that our money should provide but the WDFW gives itself another blackeye. I get that it may not be feasable to get hunters on private property to control this herd but why not trap and transport a portion of the herd to another area? Animals like these could be used to bolster another population or start a new population where elk currently don't reside. These elk could do much more for the future of hunting in our state instead of being covertly terminated. I'm sickened by this!

[Knocker of rocks]

I received what I feel is the final conformation just now.

This is happening. Shooters from the USDA are doing it. I have known this person more than 20 years. He is straight up with me.

He said in a short answer to a email I sent  Yes by the USDA.

So I was a doubter, now I am 100% convinced.

To the OP thank you for the heads up.


For myself I am sickened . The elk are a problem, but hunters could have been part of the solution. Why not shoot them if they must and let un filled tag holders tag the meat. At least some of the folks who plug down there cash for tags and permit draws could maybe get some thing back.

That is a little less than 100% convincing

[snowpack]

I received what I feel is the final conformation just now.

This is happening. Shooters from the USDA are doing it. I have known this person more than 20 years. He is straight up with me.

He said in a short answer to a email I sent  Yes by the USDA.

So I was a doubter, now I am 100% convinced.

To the OP thank you for the heads up.


For myself I am sickened . The elk are a problem, but hunters could have been part of the solution. Why not shoot them if they must and let un filled tag holders tag the meat. At least some of the folks who plug down there cash for tags and permit draws could maybe get some thing back.

The USDA?  This is comical on so many different levels!

No it's not.  The USDA oversees the USFS and a detachment known as Wildlife Services.  Wildlife Services does lots of hunting and trapping of 'problem animals'.  This includes deer, coyotes, used to include wolves, etc.  They use lots of aerial gunning and even poison in some states.  I think Wildlife Services takes out more coyotes than all of hunter combined.  They like to hire former military/LEO snipers for some of their positions.

[Knocker of rocks]

Contact Information:

Washington Wildlife Services State Director
720 O'Leary Street NW
Olympia, WA 98502

Phone: 360-753-9884

Toll Free: 1-866-4USDAWS

FAX: 360-753-9466

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/state_office/washington_info.shtml

[Bob33]

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/informational_notebooks/2012/WS%20State%20Operations/49-washington_report.pdf

[ghosthunter]

Because the DFW transported these animals in and they do not have the Money to transport them out. Without tribe money.

There is a huge area just across south Skagit Hwy for them. Cumberland ,Finny creek area.

But the elk need a river bottom. And will not stay in the highlands.

The whole thing was a screw up from the beginning .

[ghosthunter]

I received what I feel is the final conformation just now.

This is happening. Shooters from the USDA are doing it. I have known this person more than 20 years. He is straight up with me.

He said in a short answer to a email I sent  Yes by the USDA.

So I was a doubter, now I am 100% convinced.

To the OP thank you for the heads up.


For myself I am sickened . The elk are a problem, but hunters could have been part of the solution. Why not shoot them if they must and let un filled tag holders tag the meat. At least some of the folks who plug down there cash for tags and permit draws could maybe get some thing back.

That is a little less than 100% convincing

I understand, I doubted the OP too.

But I have been a Hunter Ed  instructor for over 20 years. The two folks I talked too. Both have been in the DFW for many years. It is USDA.

You can take it to the bank.

[Humptulips]

I received what I feel is the final conformation just now.

This is happening. Shooters from the USDA are doing it. I have known this person more than 20 years. He is straight up with me.

He said in a short answer to a email I sent  Yes by the USDA.

So I was a doubter, now I am 100% convinced.

To the OP thank you for the heads up.


For myself I am sickened . The elk are a problem, but hunters could have been part of the solution. Why not shoot them if they must and let un filled tag holders tag the meat. At least some of the folks who plug down there cash for tags and permit draws could maybe get some thing back.

The USDA?  This is comical on so many different levels!

No it's not.  The USDA oversees the USFS and a detachment known as Wildlife Services.  Wildlife Services does lots of hunting and trapping of 'problem animals'.  This includes deer, coyotes, used to include wolves, etc.  They use lots of aerial gunning and even poison in some states.  I think Wildlife Services takes out more coyotes than all of hunter combined.  They like to hire former military/LEO snipers for some of their positions.

It's actually called USDA APHIS (United States Department of Agriculture Animal Plant and Health Inspection Service) At one time they were a part of the USFWS but were transfered to USDA.
I know guys that work there and do nothing but shoot stuff all year long. They don't have to follow state laws so they can do a lot of stuff no one else can do.

[turkeyfeather]

I for one have seen enough to think that there very likely is something to all this. And heads should roll. Some of you all need to check your priorities. When a member comes on and informs us he believes he knows of a injustice that affects us all we should listen and help check into it. Not sit behind a keyboard like a coward and attack the guy just cause he is a new member. You all were new members once. Does that mean you first 50-100 posts were all B.S. too as you think everyone elses is

[Knocker of rocks]

I for one have seen enough to think that there very likely is something to all this. And heads should roll. Some of you all need to check your priorities. When a member comes on and informs us he believes he knows of a injustice that affects us all we should listen and help check into it. Not sit behind a keyboard like a coward and attack the guy just cause he is a new member. You all were new members once. Does that mean you first 50-100 posts were all B.S. too as you think everyone elses is

So every unsubstantiated claim on the net should be believed?  When asked for more information, the OP replied we should go look ourselves, even though he himself lives with 25 miles?

[elk247]

Is this gmu near the elk area that got all the bad press a few years ago when some people got video of the elk being arrowed in the pasture?

I could see WDFW wanting to control numbers in a way that they felt would get the job done quick and quiet.

Same herd. The dfw has an elk management plan that calls for limiting damage to private property and farm land by the river while at the same time allowing the herd to be photographed and maintain a watchable wildlife recreation area. A wildlife area along a hiway might seem like a good idea for the wildlife viewers, but having a 600# animal go through a windshield at 50 mph and kill an entire family is not worth the convenience. They need to choose one or the other imo. I would like to see problem elk relocated across the river into the hills of the sauk unit.

[elk247]

What a shame! Not only are hunters denied opportunity that our money should provide but the WDFW gives itself another blackeye. I get that it may not be feasable to get hunters on private property to control this herd but why not trap and transport a portion of the herd to another area? Animals like these could be used to bolster another population or start a new population where elk currently don't reside. These elk could do much more for the future of hunting in our state instead of being covertly terminated. I'm sickened by this!

x100

[Knocker of rocks]

I would like to see problem elk relocated across the river into the hills of the sauk unit.

The OP did say the shooting was on the S Skagit highway

[turkeyfeather]

I for one have seen enough to think that there very likely is something to all this. And heads should roll. Some of you all need to check your priorities. When a member comes on and informs us he believes he knows of a injustice that affects us all we should listen and help check into it. Not sit behind a keyboard like a coward and attack the guy just cause he is a new member. You all were new members once. Does that mean you first 50-100 posts were all B.S. too as you think everyone elses is

So every unsubstantiated claim on the net should be believed?  When asked for more information, the OP replied we should go look ourselves, even though he himself lives with 25 miles?

Nope, didn't say that. As usual you didn't pay attention. I said it should be checked out BEFORE you blast a guy and basically call him a liar. If it's true it makes you look like a fool. And maybe he wanted others to see for themselves as several of you had already indicated you didn't believe him. It's really not that hard to figure out.