Tire Chains - Snow in the Mountains - Yes You

[BsB]

So what width tires are you guys considering wide, and what do you consider pizza cutters?

pizza cutter to me would be tires 9.5" and narrower, wide would be 10.5" or bigger for a pickup.

I never bothered with chains in my wheeler, it was hard enough finding chains for a 14.5" wide tire not to mention when I aired down to 4PSI the tire would easily hit 16" wide.

Cruising around on ~4ft of spring snow base.


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[Special T]

I run 33x9.5r15 on my S-10 really hard to find anymore. My brother runs 255/85r16 on his ranger for general purpose driving/wheeling and some35x 13 wide BFG all seasons for snow. For really wide tires your best chain option is to get a used set semi truck chains and cut the length down. That is what my bro uses on his ride for DEEP snow when rescuing logging equipment.

[KFhunter]

BsB  I don't disagree with how your wheeler does on spring snow, but what you're doing is a whole different ball o' wax. 

We're talking early season snow where your just as likely to run on 6 inches of slush as back ice or a foot of powder or wet snow.  Those meats aren't going to do well in that.

[Buckmark]

BsB  I don't disagree with how your wheeler does on spring snow, but what you're doing is a whole different ball o' wax. 

We're talking early season snow where your just as likely to run on 6 inches of slush as back ice or a foot of powder or wet snow.  Those meats aren't going to do well in that.

Spring snow is what we called when snowmobiling as "Expert" or "Hero" snow as you could look like an expert and go anywhere...new fesh snow is a whole different ball game and throw in melt then freeze ice and oh boy i dont care if your tires are 4ft wide.....sledding anyone..

[KFhunter]

^^

cascade concrete 



I avoid that stuff and ride Canada 90% of  the time.  You don't have to go all the way to Revy to find epic snow!

[gasman]

Few things you guys keep forgetting about narrow tires.'

Fact.......Less foot print for traction, when you talk about cutting down to the ground for trsctio, you are more likely to be high cenered and will plow more snow with your Differential.


I have used both wide and narrow tires, in early and spring snow and narrow tires suck in both cases.......PERIOD

[buglebuster]

Few things you guys keep forgetting about narrow tires.'

Fact.......Less foot print for traction, when you talk about cutting down to the ground for trsctio, you are more likely to be high cenered and will plow more snow with your Differential.


I have used both wide and narrow tires, in early and spring snow and narrow tires suck in both cases.......PERIOD

finally someone on the same page as me

[sakoshooter]

Few things you guys keep forgetting about narrow tires.'

Fact.......Less foot print for traction, when you talk about cutting down to the ground for trsctio, you are more likely to be high cenered and will plow more snow with your Differential.


I have used both wide and narrow tires, in early and spring snow and narrow tires suck in both cases.......PERIOD

Darn funny that most folks back home(northern WI)run snow tires. Either year round or have a set for winter and a road tire set for summer. All those snow tires are narrow and aggressive with open tread that wraps around the tire's circumference rather than sideways tread that clogs and turns into slicks.
I remember my bro buying a lifted 4WD Chev PU with fat tires and wheels when I got out of the service back in the late 70's. We ran into town for some beer and couldn't get back up the road to the house cuz of about 8" of wet snow. While we were trying to figure it out my Dad came home from work in his Olds Cutlass with snow tires on the back and drove right around us and up into the driveway without even spinning a tire. My bro took his truck into town the next day and had standard wheels and snow tires installed.
There's a reason snow tires are not wide.
But if you insist on running those fat tires without chains, buy a good quality tow chain or nylon strap so those of us w/chained up tires can pull you out when you're sideways in the rd. LOL.

[gasman]

Few things you guys keep forgetting about narrow tires.'

Fact.......Less foot print for traction, when you talk about cutting down to the ground for trsctio, you are more likely to be high cenered and will plow more snow with your Differential.


I have used both wide and narrow tires, in early and spring snow and narrow tires suck in both cases.......PERIOD

Darn funny that most folks back home(northern WI)run snow tires. Either year round or have a set for winter and a road tire set for summer. All those snow tires are narrow and aggressive with open tread that wraps around the tire's circumference rather than sideways tread that clogs and turns into slicks.
I remember my bro buying a lifted Chev PU with fat tires and wheels when I got out of the service back in the late 70's. We ran into town for some beer and couldn't get back up the road to the house cuz of about 8" of wet snow. While we were trying to figure it out my Dad came home from work in his Olds Cutlass with snow tires on the back and drove right around us and up into the driveway without even spinning a tire. My bro took his truck into town the next day and had standard wheels and snow tires installed.
There's a reason snow tires are not wide.
But if you insist on running those fat tires without chains, buy a good quality tow chain or nylon strap so those of us w/chained up tires can pull you out when you're sideways in the rd. LOL.

Snow tires are designed for on road use, we are disusing off road or logging road use, big difference.

You can keep your skinny tire up hunting and I will pull you out when you get high centered in the deep snow. I will be the one in the Barbie Jeep with the air down 33" tires. I may even have chains on if its icy 

[sakoshooter]

Snow tires are designed for on road use, we are disusing off road or logging road use, big difference.

You can keep your skinny tire up hunting and I will pull you out when you get high centered in the deep snow. I will be the one in the Barbie Jeep with the air down 33" tires. I may even have chains on if its icy 
[/quote]

Where did you read this? In an off road magazine tire add? Off road is exactly what I'm talking about.
Few years ago my hunting partner followed me w/chains on all 4 pulling a utility trailer over Lone Frank Pass in the northern Cascades at the end of rifle deer season. The pass back then was darn rough and a narrow single lane but it was also drifted over by about 2 - 3' of snow. I had snow coming over the hood most of the way up and the utility trailer was acting like the bill on a deep diving crankbait as it swayed all over the place behind me. I broke trail since my partner didn't have chains. My 4WD Chev PU and his 4WD Ford PU. High centered doesn't matter when you dig down thru it to solid ground. It's still just as steep but has been widened out so 2 vehicles can pass each other.
Maybe we'll just agree to disagree Gasman cuz you can pull me out any time. I have been stuck before and I'm sure it won't be the last time.

[KFhunter]

You ain't pulling me out because I park the truck before the snow gets up to the lug nuts and take out the ATV or Snowmobile depending on my mood at the time.

[CAMPMEAT]

wide tires suck on ice and snow! Narrow agressive tires will out perform hands down

Exactly.............fat, wide tires are horrible in the snow and ice.

[mallard79]

Never had a problem getting just about anywhere I wanted to go with my 31x10.5s on my Toyota.    my brother runs wide 36" swampers on his yota and never has a problem......any of you ever consider it might be driver error       read the snow like you would read the water in a river for fishing or running your boat and choose your line carefully...keep your foot out of it and you might suprise yourself as to how far you can go. I don't know what some of you consider high centered....but last time I checked it meant your diffs and/or frame or something underneath the vehicle was on something keeping your tires(all 4) from digging anymore...meaning ZERO traction....meaning ZERO forward or reverse progress. Get out the winch and snatch blocks..... 

[jackelope]

Snow tires.

[Dan-o]

I've never really felt like I needed chains.

You just go as far as you can go, and eventually you get stuck.   It's not that big a deal.   Someone will usually come along shortly and pull you out because they need to get by.