Closure of Last Lead Smelting Plant in U.S. to Impact Ammunition Production

[CamoDup]

Not sure if this topic has been has been posted yet but this is something we need to know! Ammo prices will be going up...ALOT!

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/16881-epa-closure-of-last-lead-smelting-plant-to-impact-ammunition-production

[scout/sniper]

Backdoor gun control?
I think this is much more insidious than it appears.

[boneaddict]

They seem to have locked up powder, now this.

[Wazukie]

Do a little research on this and you will find that the bullet manufactures say that this will not affect their business at all as they use almost 100% recycled led for manufacturing and not raw material.

[CamoDup]

Absolutely it is backdoor gun control! Just a different approach to actually taking the guns away. It is strange to me that this hasn't been reported on the news. They are keeping the citizens in the dark until it happens. Less then a month away so it is too late to do anything about it now....

[WoodlandShooter]

Cutting Edge Bullets!!!

[scout/sniper]

Do a little research on this and you will find that the bullet manufactures say that this will not affect their business at all as they use almost 100% recycled led for manufacturing and not raw material.

That's good to hear, thanks.

[Coasthunterjay]

Do a little research on this and you will find that the bullet manufactures say that this will not affect their business at all as they use almost 100% recycled led for manufacturing and not raw material.

Yah that and imported lead. I'm glad to see the manufacturers already prepared and not worried about this. Back to hunting down our ever hard to find powder.

[csaaphill]

However cost will go up, and yes this is very much a backdoor ctrl issue for lead is being banned right and left so weather or not they use recycled lead won't matter one diddly squat. Lol recycled lead you a troll? or something trying to downsize the importance of this?
How can a plant that closed down use recycled lead? NOW they have to import it if it can be used at all damn!
About 145 employees of the Doe Run lead smelter [in Herculaneum, Missouri] learned they will lose their jobs at the end of December because of the plant’s closure, the Doe Run Co. said Wednesday. An additional 73 contractor jobs also will be eliminated.
OH but wait do some research it aint bad it aint bad at all
the next step is real easy make it only able to use copper or some other form of metal that's already armor peiercing or something that's against the law somewhere somehow then ban that... Boom NO MORE AMMO EVER!
But wait they are using recycled lead 

[Elkaholic daWg]

http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/2013/12/epa-thugs-used-for-backdoor-gun-control/


December 6, 2013 By Conservative Action Alerts
EPA Thugs used for ‘Backdoor’ Gun-Control

ALERT: Obama uses EPA thugs to shut down lead plant, achieve “backdoor” gun-control. Blast Faxes – Tell Congress to ABOLISH the EPA!

American Conservative,

The ability to exercise our individual rights to “bear arms” is severely hampered without ammunition.

This is to say that government does not need an unconstitutional act of Congress expressly disarming Americans in order to render our ability to defend our persons, families, property, and liberty null – they only have to successfully “dry up the supply” of guns or ammunition, as Dianne Feinstein notoriously put it.

This is why the forced closure of America’s oldest, last-remaining lead smelting plant is so concerning as the metal is essential for the manufacturing of bullets.

When Herculaneum, Missouri’s Doe Run Co. officially shuts its doors on December 31st all domestic ammunition producers will be forced to import their refined lead supplies from other countries.

Simple economics says this could cause the price of ammunition to skyrocket as producers’ new importation costs would be absorbed into each and every round for sale.

This could lead to ammunition being literally “priced” out of our hands… and it’s the direct result of government actions! Obama’s radical Environmental Protection Agency is to blame.

[xd2005]

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/12/us-ammunition-industry-to-survive-closure-of-lead-smelter.aspx

We previously reported on the closure of the nation's last primary lead smelter due to tightened EPA standards on ambient air quality.  As the date for closure of the smelter approaches, there has been a significant amount of speculation concerning the effect of the smelter's closure on the availability and price of ammunition.

According to the United States Geological Survey, lead usage in ammunition makes up only about three percent of lead consumption in the United States.  Lead-acid batteries make up the vast majority of U.S. lead consumption, and these batteries are readily recycled.  This recycled lead, which will still be able to be smelted in the United States at secondary smelters even after the Herculaneum smelter closes, is the type most often used by ammunition manufacturers. 

Speculation about the effect of the Herculaneum smelter's closure has caused a number of ammunition manufacturers, including Sierra and Federal, to issue public statements on their ability to continue to source lead for ammunition production.  As Lawrence Keane, the senior vice president and general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, pointed out to Emily Miller of the Washington Times, ammunition producers have known for some time of the impending closure of the Herculaneum smelter and do not believe that the closure will affect production of lead ammunition components.   

While the reduction in supply of primary lead from the Herculaneum smelter could mean increased demand for recycled lead, the small increase in demand should be met by existing sources or possibly by a new U.S. smelter using already existing technology that is capable of meeting the new air quality standards.

In any case, the bottom line for consumers is that ammunition producers do not expect the smelter's closure to lead to any imminent impact on the price or availability of lead ammunition components.  While many factors can affect the market for ammunition, this particular facility's closure should not have the dramatic impact that some have predicted.

[Wazukie]

However cost will go up, and yes this is very much a backdoor ctrl issue for lead is being banned right and left so weather or not they use recycled lead won't matter one diddly squat. Lol recycled lead you a troll? or something trying to downsize the importance of this?
How can a plant that closed down use recycled lead? NOW they have to import it if it can be used at all damn!
About 145 employees of the Doe Run lead smelter [in Herculaneum, Missouri] learned they will lose their jobs at the end of December because of the plant’s closure, the Doe Run Co. said Wednesday. An additional 73 contractor jobs also will be eliminated.
OH but wait do some research it aint bad it aint bad at all
the next step is real easy make it only able to use copper or some other form of metal that's already armor peiercing or something that's against the law somewhere somehow then ban that... Boom NO MORE AMMO EVER!
But wait they are using recycled lead 

WOW 

[snowpack]

correct me if wrong, but there will still be other smelters that primarily refine other metals still smelting lead as a byproduct

[Wazukie]

As said in the report that XD2005 posted, most of the leas that bullet manufacturers use, comes from recycled lead batteries, hence, recycled lead.   

[actionshooter]

As said in the report that XD2005 posted, most of the leas that bullet manufacturers use, comes from recycled lead batteries, hence, recycled lead.   

That can't be right! You must be a troll!