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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2014, 02:20:46 PM »
Is this what big antlers have done to hunting??  What a bunch of BS...

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Didn't you recently post that... "there's no reason not to take a mature bull with any peaches tag" :chuckle: :chuckle:
I kid. I kid.

Yes when it becomes a checkbook/horn measuring contest this is what big antlers have done to hunting :(

I believe I said SPIKE!! :chuckle:
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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2014, 02:25:20 PM »
Is this what big antlers have done to hunting??  What a bunch of BS...

Rtspring
Didn't you recently post that... "there's no reason not to take a mature bull with any peaches tag" :chuckle: :chuckle:
I kid. I kid.

Yes when it becomes a checkbook/horn measuring contest this is what big antlers have done to hunting :(

I believe this is what big antlers have done to a few hunts every year in our state and a lot of the other western states as well. I wouldn't say it's an all of  hunting thing...
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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #77 on: January 03, 2014, 02:31:33 PM »
Not hunting in general no. Of course when someone draws a great tag sometimes they'll start talking about "I'm gonna hold out for ____." etc, etc.
However Joe Schmo rarely says "I gotta shoot the biggest one in the state with this tag..."
Imagine those big $$$ raffle/governor tag guys sitting around drinking 50 year old scotch and measuring...wouldn't be much talk of nice 360-380" bulls that they might have a chance to kill.
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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #78 on: January 03, 2014, 03:06:35 PM »
WOW great write up Cory I would and do feel the same way, If you kill it eat it.

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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #79 on: January 03, 2014, 03:13:59 PM »
Here is what I think is BS about all you guys calling Cory a "hater."  YOU WERENT THERE.  Why on Gods green earth would Cory or JODakota get on here and tell THEIR story just to bash the guy.  Do you think he is lying, do you think he is making it up?  Do you really think the guy blew his hunt for him then completely apologized and Cory just decided to make up that he was a jerk about it.  A normal guy like Cory draws the tag and hunts hard to kill the bull he got, and you guys are finding it hard to believe that a guy that spends 50,000 on a tag and hires a joke of crew like mossback could be jerks and less than ethical.  He told the story how it went down and what he saw.  There isn't a damn one of you that wouldn't see it the same way had you lived it.  You are right, bumping another hunter happens, but most would be apologetic and sorry for ruining it for another, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE BEAR HUNTING.  Why would they walk into another mans setup if they are suppose to be going after bear.  They did so the ruin it for him because they were afraid he was on "THEIR" bull.  How much more obvious do you need it to be.  Then he hears shooting and finds a bull with the head cut off and meat left in the heat.  Why would he not think something is up?  You guys are the ones that need look in the mirror and wonder who the HATER are.  Go ahead and stand up for these horn seekers and MOSSCRACK crew all you want boys, I'll stand behind Cory and real ethics

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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #80 on: January 03, 2014, 03:25:23 PM »
Here is what I think is BS about all you guys calling Cory a "hater."  YOU WERENT THERE.  Why on Gods green earth would Cory or JODakota get on here and tell THEIR story just to bash the guy.  Do you think he is lying, do you think he is making it up?  Do you really think the guy blew his hunt for him then completely apologized and Cory just decided to make up that he was a jerk about it.  A normal guy like Cory draws the tag and hunts hard to kill the bull he got, and you guys are finding it hard to believe that a guy that spends 50,000 on a tag and hires a joke of crew like mossback could be jerks and less than ethical.  He told the story how it went down and what he saw.  There isn't a damn one of you that wouldn't see it the same way had you lived it.  You are right, bumping another hunter happens, but most would be apologetic and sorry for ruining it for another, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE BEAR HUNTING.  Why would they walk into another mans setup if they are suppose to be going after bear.  They did so the ruin it for him because they were afraid he was on "THEIR" bull.  How much more obvious do you need it to be.  Then he hears shooting and finds a bull with the head cut off and meat left in the heat.  Why would he not think something is up?  You guys are the ones that need look in the mirror and wonder who the HATER are.  Go ahead and stand up for these horn seekers and MOSSCRACK crew all you want boys, I'll stand behind Cory and real ethics

I don't see much defending Mossback.  I see a lot of grey area on the circumstance.  If you didn't read the original post (not the current OP) then you wouldn't understand that.

You seem cranky.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: DELETE!
« Reply #81 on: January 03, 2014, 03:25:31 PM »
They weren't all be accusations. I was up there when the tag holder shot that bull, and let me tell you it was quite an entertaining 7 or 8 shot s to put that bull down. Now to speak about the weather, it was in the 90s that night and easily in the 100's the next day. Now, idk if that meat was still good, but if it were mine, I wouldn't have eaten it. Let's talk about ethics, you guys are all defending this guy and you weren't even there to see what he did. Let's talk about how mossback and this guy acted when they saw "their" bluecreek bull being toted out by the lucky rifle rut tag holder. Anybody know how they reacted? I sure do and let me tell you, its definitely some of the most unsportsmanlike conduct I have ever seen. I think what Cory is getting at is basically this tag holder, is a straight up *censored*. Well that's my 2 cents, flamw on.
Like I said, haters gonna hate! :dunno:

I read this in your posts all the time, are you one of those guys that have the "I heart haters" in their back window? :chuckle:
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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #82 on: January 03, 2014, 03:39:54 PM »
Here is what I think is BS about all you guys calling Cory a "hater."  YOU WERENT THERE.  Why on Gods green earth would Cory or JODakota get on here and tell THEIR story just to bash the guy.  Do you think he is lying, do you think he is making it up?  Do you really think the guy blew his hunt for him then completely apologized and Cory just decided to make up that he was a jerk about it.  A normal guy like Cory draws the tag and hunts hard to kill the bull he got, and you guys are finding it hard to believe that a guy that spends 50,000 on a tag and hires a joke of crew like mossback could be jerks and less than ethical.  He told the story how it went down and what he saw.  There isn't a damn one of you that wouldn't see it the same way had you lived it.  You are right, bumping another hunter happens, but most would be apologetic and sorry for ruining it for another, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE BEAR HUNTING.  Why would they walk into another mans setup if they are suppose to be going after bear.  They did so the ruin it for him because they were afraid he was on "THEIR" bull.  How much more obvious do you need it to be.  Then he hears shooting and finds a bull with the head cut off and meat left in the heat.  Why would he not think something is up?  You guys are the ones that need look in the mirror and wonder who the HATER are.  Go ahead and stand up for these horn seekers and MOSSCRACK crew all you want boys, I'll stand behind Cory and real ethics

I don't see much defending Mossback.  I see a lot of grey area on the circumstance.  If you didn't read the original post (not the current OP) then you wouldn't understand that.

You seem cranky.

Cranky?  I am far from it.  I just read almost 3 pages of dudes bashing Cory for what happened to him on his hunt.  It just doesn't make sense that he is being bashed for telling what happened, by a bunch of people who didn't see it happen.  It is as plain as rain what point Cory is trying convey and many are just not wanting hear it and say, maybe the raffle holder and his crew were in the wrong

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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #83 on: January 03, 2014, 03:55:38 PM »
I think a lot of these guys have man crushes on this raffle tag dude :) story sounds legit to me and I don't know Cory or the raffle dude.

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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #84 on: January 03, 2014, 04:18:42 PM »
Here is what I think is BS about all you guys calling Cory a "hater."  YOU WERENT THERE.  Why on Gods green earth would Cory or JODakota get on here and tell THEIR story just to bash the guy.  Do you think he is lying, do you think he is making it up?  Do you really think the guy blew his hunt for him then completely apologized and Cory just decided to make up that he was a jerk about it.  A normal guy like Cory draws the tag and hunts hard to kill the bull he got, and you guys are finding it hard to believe that a guy that spends 50,000 on a tag and hires a joke of crew like mossback could be jerks and less than ethical.  He told the story how it went down and what he saw.  There isn't a damn one of you that wouldn't see it the same way had you lived it.  You are right, bumping another hunter happens, but most would be apologetic and sorry for ruining it for another, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE BEAR HUNTING.  Why would they walk into another mans setup if they are suppose to be going after bear.  They did so the ruin it for him because they were afraid he was on "THEIR" bull.  How much more obvious do you need it to be.  Then he hears shooting and finds a bull with the head cut off and meat left in the heat.  Why would he not think something is up?  You guys are the ones that need look in the mirror and wonder who the HATER are.  Go ahead and stand up for these horn seekers and MOSSCRACK crew all you want boys, I'll stand behind Cory and real ethics

Lighten up a little. I dont think that there is a huge support group for Mossback and crew. And maybe the raffle tag hunter was out of line. I think the reason that there are some inflamatory remarks coming back at the original poster is because his original post was more inflamatory than the one he reposted. Kinda goes hand in hand! Maybe he thought about it a little more and saw that. And reposted in a better way.

There were also what seemed to be some assumptions made in the first post. Making people wonder what the other side of the story  is.

I think we all write things in the heat of the moment that we wish we would have put more thought into beforehand. Corey is probably a stand up guy. Just the way things go sometimes.

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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #85 on: January 03, 2014, 04:56:05 PM »
Archers and rifle hunters have always played in harmony on here, why wouldn't they in the woods?  Especially when a rifle hunter shot a bull in an archery unit.   :chuckle: :chuckle:

When I am hunting, I am not telling anybody anything about the area I am hunting.  Some people have the gift of gab in person and on the internet.  I ask questions and let them talk. 

 

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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #86 on: January 03, 2014, 05:18:32 PM »
Thanks for sharing your experience Cory. If the shooter really did leave everything but the head in those kind of temps without a sense of urgency to recover the meat that is just simply poor sportsmanship and a lack of respect for the animal. I love big horns as much as the next guy, but if i had left an animal overnight I'd be hiking in with a headlamp first thing in the morning to recover the rest of the meat. Downed animals deserve that respect: a 400"bull or a 100# spike buck :twocents:

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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #87 on: January 03, 2014, 05:26:35 PM »
I think a lot of these guys have man crushes on this raffle tag dude :) story sounds legit to me and I don't know Cory or the raffle dude.

Exactly.  They see a bull go down and they don't want to believe that someone they are envious of could act out of line.  Its like the first time you see one of your Middle School teachers smoking a cigarette.  You just want to hold on and not believe the facts :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #88 on: January 03, 2014, 05:26:42 PM »
I so regret deleting my OP as i dont feel it was any more harsh than what is posted now. I am absolutely at peace with what I have said and why I said it.
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Re: Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!
« Reply #89 on: January 03, 2014, 05:52:06 PM »
Are you angry at the hunter or the guide?

Does the hunter have the responsibility to pack the meat out or does the guide and his minions?  For all you know the hunter could have paid the guide to handle all meat care and pack out of meat.  If that is the case, it is not the hunter's responsibility.  Yeah you could argue that the hunter should pack out the meat because you pack out your own meat but that might not be the case when you hire a guide.  I personally have never gone on a guided hunt so I don't know how that goes.  I have only drawn the conclusion from watching the TV hunting shows.  The hunter rarely packs meat.  He just smiles and walks while the guide packs the load.  In the case of an elk, its not a one trip wonder with just one guy.   


When you guide people duck hunting, do you clean the ducks or do you hand them whole to the customer to do it.  I hunted Eagle Lakes once and we handed our birds to some guys in a room and they processed them for us.   I gave the guy a tip and  off we went.

I think we can all share your frustrations of having your stalk spoiled.  It happens and is part of hunting. 

Personally, I am not crazy about being within 100 yards of a bull during the rut with the potential of an errant bullet from 200+ yards away striking me.  Doesn't seem very safe if you ask me. 

 


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