Found my Superposed

[BOWHUNTER45]

Beauty !!! 

[jackmaster]

here is a question for ya, i have a double barrel 16 ga that looks real simalar to that over and under, would the firing pin set up in the o/u be the same as mine and if it is, how hard is it to replace the firing pin or pins in those type of guns? the right barrel on mine doesnt fire, so i am thinking there is a spring in there and either that is broke or the pin is broke, any knowledge on this from you fellas 

[AWS]

You need to take the stock off and everything is out in the open to see what the problem is.

Double trigger SXS
1.  The gun goes click when you pull the trigger and just a mark on the primer but doesn't fire= weak spring/dirty or gummed firing pin.

2.  The gun goes click when you pull the trigger and no mark on the primmer= broken firing pin or broken hammer.

3.  Gun doesn't go click when you pull the trigger, broken spring , cocking rod or sear.

Single trigger if the gun doesn't click when you pull the trigger the auto-selector gummed or stuck, but should work if you manually select the right barrel if no click see above.  Selector systems are very sensitive and need attention by a qualified gunsmith.  Main springs either leaf or coil are very hard to get in and out.

Good luck

[merkelman]

here is a question for ya, i have a double barrel 16 ga that looks real simalar to that over and under, would the firing pin set up in the o/u be the same as mine and if it is, how hard is it to replace the firing pin or pins in those type of guns? the right barrel on mine doesnt fire, so i am thinking there is a spring in there and either that is broke or the pin is broke, any knowledge on this from you fellas 

I agree with AWS, SCOTT KING is a great gunsmith over in Wenatchee. You can always send it to him for review. If you need a new spring, sear, or firing pin he can accommodate. He does great work!  509-860-1543

[jackmaster]

Thank you AWS, its an old Stevens, really old, it has double triggers, I will take it apart and have a look see will springs go flyn by chance?

[AWS]

Not by just removing the stock.  They can fly if you try to remove them if they are coil springs.  When removing small springs working inside a plastic bag can save a lot of headaches.

[merkelman]

They should be coil springs on that gun.

[jackmaster]

Thanks for the heads up fellas and the knowledge, I guess if I mess it up it will still make an awesome mantle piece. Seriously I gotta fix it, it was such an awesome ruff gun

[quadrafire]

That is a really nice looking O/U. the weight is impressive.
I have a red label 12 and that thing is a tank.
I have always liked the looks of SxS and picked up an old (1920ish) 20ga Crescent w/ 28 in mod/full barrels. In really good shape. It is a sidelock and is easy to disassemble and clean the "workings"
Haven't shot it yet.

[jetjockey]

Make sure you have it checked before you shoot it I your going to shoot modern loads.  In the 20's most 20ga guns still had 2 1/2 in chambers.  They were proofed for much lower pressures than today's loads as well.   When I got my Smith, I took it to a well know double gunsmith in North GA.  He measured everything before he deemed it safe to shoot.  There's more than 1 old double out their that's been butchered by smiths that didn't know what they were doing, and aren't safe to shoot. With that said, there's something nostalgic about carrying an old American Classic SxS in the field.  Every time I drop a quail with my LC Smith, it makes me wonder about the original owner, the hunting back then, the dogs, birds, etc.  Owning an American shotgun is like owning a piece of history!  Shooting one is like going back in time!

[quadrafire]

Hey Jet thanks for that
don't mean to thread jack here, but if it was for 2 1/2 would a 2 3/4 shell fit in it? They slide in fine with no resistance.

[merkelman]

Yes...

[jetjockey]

Shell length is measured by the opened length, not loaded. Measure a 2 3/4 inch shell, and you will notice it's only 2 3/4 after it's been fired.  So yes, a 2 3/4 inch shell will often load just fine.  If you load a fired 2 3/4 inch shell, typically it won't fit all the way in if the chambers are 2 1/2. But that's not always the case.  Find a good smith with the proper gauges and they should be able to tell you.  BTW.  The bores should measure close to .615.  If they are much bigger, it means they've been honed out to remove rust pits.  That could make the gun unsafe to shoot if the barrel metal isn't thick enough to handle the pressure.

[quadrafire]

Wish I had this information before I purchased the durned thing.
It is really clean, I don' think the chambers have been honed, but can't be positive.
I'll mic it and consider finding a local smith to do a check up.
Thanks

[AWS]

2 1/2" shells are fairly easy to get, and not that expensive.  RST makes them.

Here's a link to the price sheet, just scroll down to 20ga.

http://www.rstshells.com/rst_classic_shotshells_shotshells.htm

I shoot 12 and 16ga shotguns with 2 1/2" chambers and they work as good or better than 2 3/4" shotguns.

Reloading data is available for 2 1/2 shells in 12, 16, and 20 ga. from Ballistic Products.