Elite!

[Jellymon]

Yes I've found the hoyt bashing thread.

Not my intention. I love my Hoyt too. 

[D-Rock425]

I know jellymon you were

[RadSav]

Are we talking back in the Tom Byers days

Tom Byers was a hoot!  He and I hang out quite a bit back then.  One year at the Archery Trade Show he checked his jacket when we went in for a private Nugent concert.  The young girl behind the counter says, "Don't I know you?"  Tom says something like, "Nope, never been here before" and walks off.  I go up to the girl and ask her if she got his autograph.  The girl all excited says, "I knew that was John Denver!  He's much more of an arse than I thought he would be."

[mountainman]

Nice! 

Poor Hoyt lost another one.   If this continues maybe they will start listening and respecting their customers.  One can hope anyway

maybe get some decent sales reps at the same time and get rid of the old ones! Broadhead is a joke!

 What is wrong with Gary???

My comments have never been a reflection on Gary.  For us he has been one of the few exceptions to the arrogant Hoyt rep rule.  But, I do hear the same thing as Mountainman on a regular basis.  I've never asked for details why so I'm not sure what they are about.

He is a pleasant man to visit with and talk bowhunting, but as a rep, I have found him to be a little on the lazy side..Tries to sell what you may not need or desire, but not checked in when you want or need anything else. When it is my dollars going out, I would expect a little more from a rep, as all of my other reps provide. Who works for who type of thing. Sorry, I do not want to change anyones feelings, just my experience with him...

[dreamingbig]

I have no complaint with my Hoyt Maxxis 35 but I really want to shoot the new Elite Energy 35 to see how it feels.  It looks like a pretty decent bow; would be a nice addition to the fleet!

[Jellymon]

Alright the honeymoon phase is over, this is what I've found. After going though quite a few bows my elite answer and hoyt vector turbo fit me perfectly and aren't going anywhere. I have found my primary and backup.
Here's what I found, winners in each category-

Grip- Elite
Finish- Elite
Draw- Elite
Valley- Elite
Balance- Hoyt
Wall- Elite
Noise- tie
Speed- Hoyt
Vibration- Elite
Recoil(handshock)- Hoyt
Accuracy- Tie
Hold on target- Hoyt

[D-Rock425]

  hoyt wins

[RadSav]

hoyt wins

Oh NO!  Say it isn't so   

[D-Rock425]

hoyt wins

Oh NO!  Say it isn't so   

made my day!

[RadSav]

I guess a 6" brace height isn't all that bad for you Umpa Lumpas'.   



But if you guys do get a chance to try the new Xpedition Xcentric please do so.  I really was impressed with it for a 6" brace height bow.  Extremely quiet for a speed bow.  And the 350ibo should put a little something extra in your pocket.  If you're going to shoot a 6" bow you might as well get the additional speed at the same time, shouldn't you?

[Jellymon]

We prefer pigmently challenged little people.   

Real world speeds that bow and mine are probably within 5 fps of each other, not enough for me to notice. That new bowtech RPM 360 on the other hand.......
By the way Radsav, have you shot the RPM? How's the draw cycle? I noticed Bowtech is using ATA to rate the speed of that bow, nice to see more companies using that and posting real speeds.

[RadSav]

We prefer pigmently challenged little people.   

My apologies 

By the way Radsav, have you shot the RPM? How's the draw cycle?

I did get a chance to shoot it!  It was definitely nice for a low brace bow.  But, I don't think the one I shot was anywhere near 70#.  Sort of hard to give apples to apples comparison on how hard the draw cycle is. It definitely wasn't an Experience I'll tell you that!!!   While it was nice and I like the new grip I couldn't help but compare it to the Xcentric which I liked a whole lot better.  Maybe the Xcentric fit me better

I thought guys sold their soul for 5fps.  I know I get letters all the time from guys who say they were going to shoot our peep until they found out it was 1.5 grains more than someone elses.     Back in my retail days I had a guy try to sue us for a ruined elk trip to Wyoming because he missed a trophy elk at 80 yards.  Apparently he told us to cut his arrows at 29" without one to match.  When he got to elk camp he found out our arrows and his previous arrows were almost 1/8" different and that is why he missed   So 5 fps...that's almost as fast a quarter falling from your pocket.  That's HUGE 

[Jellymon]

1.5 grains heavier? I'm not buying your peeps anymore! Thats 1/3 of 1 fps! You can't kill an elk with that kind of speed loss!

I love RAD peeps! That's all I'll buy anymore.