okay so an update on that, i got the storm from them and nobody wanted to buy it. when i decided to just use it myself, it turned out the package had been slit open and clear taped up, so they didnt even send me a brand new one. it had a slightly scuffed up screen. anyway i put it up for one month, maybe 5 weeks. when i went back to it the batteries were completely dead and the whole camera was full of water. i mean it literally was pouring out of the seams of the cam when i turned it up side down, can still see drops rolling around inside the lens. boy am i impressed. i think im going to send it back to them with a bottle of astroglide and a note saying simply "i think you know what to do"