Hoyt Spyder Turbo or BowTech Insanity

[xXLojackXx]

I have a 29.5" draw and shoot 80 lbs because I want to. I'm in my late 20's, strong, in shape and can pull and hold 80lbs like most people can 60-70lbs. So why not? The extra poundage can't hurt and actually can only help.

Kind of like the guys that drive an F350 on 37" tires to the grocery store. It's not necessary to carry a gallon of milk, so why do it? Because they want to and can.

[Russ McDonald]

I have a 29.5" draw and shoot 80 lbs because I want to. I'm in my late 20's, strong, in shape and can pull and hold 80lbs like most people can 60-70lbs. So why not? The extra poundage can't hurt and actually can only help.

Kind of like the guys that drive an F350 on 37" tires to the grocery store. It's not necessary to carry a gallon of milk, so why do it? Because they want to and can.

Actually according to me wife those guys the drive those big trucks are compensating for other things   

[Come Get Some]

I am saying if you want to shoot a heavier arrow but don't have the draw length to make up the speed; shooting heavier poundage is an option.

Agreed, But Depending on that draw length there is a place where a heavier poundage  will not give you the added benefit. Speed also accounts for kenetic energy. If your draw length is 26-27" the Stifffer arrow is what is needed for proper spine at 80 LBS. There is a cross over point where the heavy arrow depending on draw length will be slower . There is not much you can do for too short of a draw length. IBO speeds are calculated at 30" and 70LBS. AMO speeds are 6 Grains per pound. Bow manufacturers do not like to warranty bows shot with below IBO rated arrow weights. It is also hard to get a properly spined arrow if you do not go heavy enough. Do not get me wrong. I shoot a very heavy arrow and believe it is a much more efficient way to kill any animal. There is no replacement for Kenetic energy. I am 55, 6'-2" and can pull an 80-90 lb bow easily. I have shot a TON of competition on the national level. Heavy poundage is very seldom an added benefit whether hunting or competing. You will hold a lighter poundage steadier no matter how young and strong you are. Draw length is definitely a deficit that is hard to overcome. It usually comes down to choice and you see alot of younger archers doing it just because they can,.
 Kind of like the joke about the Old bull and the young bull standing on the hill looking down at all of the heifers.

[whackmaster]

do you want your broadhead to stay in the boiler room or pass threw over penetration is that a good thing 

[_TONY_]

do you want your broadhead to stay in the boiler room or pass threw over penetration is that a good thing

Two holes are better than one 

[demontang]

So I now have a insanity cpxl and man its a different bow over the cpx. And my draw lenght 31" its almost as fast and the draw cycle is smoother though I do feel a little bit more viberation wich I can take care off later

[coachcw]

the advantage to more poundage would be a heavier arrow , some guys like my self like to hold poundage . the reason I've gone to 70 lbs bows is because I have went to a 420 grain set up .

[xXLojackXx]

the advantage to more poundage would be a heavier arrow , some guys like my self like to hold poundage . the reason I've gone to 70 lbs bows is because I have went to a 420 grain set up .

Exactly. I love the Full Metal Jackets, although they're heavy they hit like a semi truck. With 80lb draw theyll be moving over 310fps

[Come Get Some]

I guess you are missing my point. I also shoot a long draw. You would not get 310FPS at 80 lbs with a full metal jacket if you did not have a longer than average draw. The average draw for most guys is about 27.5"-28".You will get a cleaner release with more holding weight. The avarage guy does  not know the difference. It depends whether or not you want to hit a 1" dot at 50 yds or a paper plate. It is all relative. High let off or 65%??? I shoot a 525 grain arrow at 70 lbs and prefer 65%.

[maxwell]

Shoot what feels right. I have had both of these bows and now the Bowtech is the back up bow to my Mathews Helim-Tac. 

KM

[Greg Mullins]

Hoyt.

[3dvapor]

I totally understand guys buying bows in the 70 to 80lb range.  I currently shoot a 430 grain arrow at 287 fps with a 29inch draw.  with todays bows and there forgiving draw cycles with 80 percent letoff there's no reason not to if a guy can easily pull a 70lb plus draw weight.    This also would help me because I shoot a single pin hha sight and usually leave it set at 25yds for hunting, but an 80lb bow would put me at speeds above 300fps allowing me to set my sight to 30yds and leave it for most shooting situations.