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Quote from: canyelk48 on February 17, 2014, 04:48:55 PMDefinitely don't like this law. Years ago when I was going through a divorce I was visiting my parents out of State and my wife's attorney convinced her to file a restraining order on me, even though there was no valid reason. It was just to be vindictive and keep me from coming back to my own home when I returned. She even allowed the Sheriff's Dept. to confiscate all of my firearms while I was gone. I had to go to court just to get my firearms returned! Anyone can file a restraining order in this State and you don't have to prove a thing in order to get it! This type abuse of process likely happens more often than we are aware of. This law is likely to result in wrongly confiscating firearms from law-abiding citizens due to the frivolous, vindictive, or unwarranted filing of a restraining orders. What judge is going to take a chance in any of these types of cases? How will the definition of "credible threat" be applied equally and fairly? This may result in many situations of guilty until proven innocent. There may be legitimate cases in which there is a "credible threat"; however, the likely abuse of the restraining order process needs to be addressed. There do not appear to be any consequences for filing frivolous, vindictive, or unwarranted restraining orders. If there are serious consequences for abusing the restraining order process, then the law may not be so ominous. The reaction to an unwarranted restraining order may end up being like suspending a second grader from school because he chewed a pop-tart into a shape resembling a gun (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/anne-arundel-second-grader-suspended-for-chewing-his-pastry-into-the-shape-of-a-gun/2013/03/04/44c4bbcc-84c4-11e2-98a3-b3db6b9ac586_story.html). This type of law should not be allowed to pass without having very strong restrictions placed on being able to file restraining orders and very serious consequences in place for filing unwarranted restraining orders.All should take a very close look at this bill and consider the possible abuses and unintended consequences:http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1840http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2013-14/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/1840-S.E.pdf
Definitely don't like this law. Years ago when I was going through a divorce I was visiting my parents out of State and my wife's attorney convinced her to file a restraining order on me, even though there was no valid reason. It was just to be vindictive and keep me from coming back to my own home when I returned. She even allowed the Sheriff's Dept. to confiscate all of my firearms while I was gone. I had to go to court just to get my firearms returned! Anyone can file a restraining order in this State and you don't have to prove a thing in order to get it!
So I guess, If you think your gal is going south, stash your guns before it happens.
Quote from: blackdog on February 17, 2014, 06:31:22 PMThe NRA was neutral not supportive.They had to be due to their previous statements, this is a "GOTCHA!" bill. So be careful dating crazy chicks
The NRA was neutral not supportive.
No. No. No. Is there really no recourse already in law for a credible threat?
Gone to be tough to get opposition to this bill. Last year the bill passed 61-37. The amendments were made this year and the entire House voted in favor, very rarely do ALL legislators (in this case House members) vote in favor of any gun bill. And finally you have the NRA in favor of a gun control legislation, that in itself says something.
Quote from: bigtex on February 17, 2014, 06:05:17 PMGone to be tough to get opposition to this bill. Last year the bill passed 61-37. The amendments were made this year and the entire House voted in favor, very rarely do ALL legislators (in this case House members) vote in favor of any gun bill. And finally you have the NRA in favor of a gun control legislation, that in itself says something.I must have missed that, but can someone please post a link or something to where the NRA expressed support of this bill?Thanks