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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2014, 08:42:57 PM »
I have been buying my fuel at Safeway for years. Here in Kelso they are consistantly cheaper than the other stations nearby. I think they may be cheaper because they use more ethanol  than the others. My son inlaw compared his mileage and driving costs using the Safeway fuel and the fuel from Shell. He said the Shell gas was actually a better value because he got that much better fuel mileage. I guess I should probably switch.
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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2014, 08:44:10 PM »
:yeah: Plus my wife shops there a lot so I usually get 80 cents of a gallon!  :IBCOOL:

80 cent discount per gallon!!! That's awesome.  :tup:

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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2014, 08:51:35 PM »
All this talk about getting better mileage with gas from certain stations, and someone mentioned  Cenex in Chehalis, so I drove down there today and filled up the car. Will find out in a couple weeks if it makes any difference. I'd like to see 33 or 34 mpg.

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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2014, 09:22:23 PM »
I just filled up my crx with premium from Texaco we will see if there is a difference. My last am pm tank was 32mpg all in town driving.

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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #49 on: February 22, 2014, 09:24:57 PM »
All this talk about getting better mileage with gas from certain stations, and someone mentioned  Cenex in Chehalis, so I drove down there today and filled up the car. Will find out in a couple weeks if it makes any difference. I'd like to see 33 or 34 mpg.

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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2014, 09:26:43 PM »
All this talk about getting better mileage with gas from certain stations, and someone mentioned  Cenex in Chehalis, so I drove down there today and filled up the car. Will find out in a couple weeks if it makes any difference. I'd like to see 33 or 34 mpg.

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 :chuckle:   Yep that would be the one.   :tup:



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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2014, 09:36:22 PM »
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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2014, 09:48:45 PM »
Right now I get diesel at Fred Meyer, my toys get non ethanol fuel from a little place in Auburn.

 :yeah: Plus my wife shops there a lot so I usually get 80 cents of a gallon!  :IBCOOL:

Your wife spends 800 dollars a week at Freddie's???  :yike:

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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2014, 10:06:07 PM »
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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2014, 10:16:50 PM »
 Oops: Refineries IN MY AREA (I believe I said). There are not two, there are 3.

2 of them are right next door to each other at March Point. One is down Harbor Island.

2 are Shell, one is Tesoro.

I don't think anyone would argue that Gasoline without ethanol will give better performance (and probably better mileage) but around my area finding alcohol-free gas is impossible

Interesting that an OBD-II controlled vehicle, whose fuel consumption is entirely controlled by the output of the oxygen sensors (at least in closed loop) would see any measurable difference in mileage. Not impossible, but interesting. I could see the possibility (more than a possibility actually) that the pumps at certain stations are way off in their volume calibration and therefore one is getting more (or less) fuel than the pump gauge reads!

'Our' AMPM just had their pumps recal'd because someone called the state to complain. Their pumps were right on.  Look at the sticker on the pump. Those things don't get checked very often.

On a side note about running high octane in a vehicle that does not require it: Some folks swear it runs better or gets better mileage. Others will argue "impossible!" On an ODB-II vehicle it is possible. The computer is constantly searching for max timing advance thru the knock sensor. Higher octane fuel will allow the baseline timing to eventually 'learn' its way up. More timing = more power. It can also cause you to fail a tailpipe test.

Your mileage may vary!  :chuckle:
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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2014, 10:33:49 PM »
Oops: Refineries IN MY AREA (I believe I said). There are not two, there are 3.

2 of them are right next door to each other at March Point. One is down Harbor Island.

2 are Shell, one is Tesoro.

I don't think anyone would argue that Gasoline without ethanol will give better performance (and probably better mileage) but around my area finding alcohol-free gas is impossible

Interesting that an OBD-II controlled vehicle, whose fuel consumption is entirely controlled by the output of the oxygen sensors (at least in closed loop) would see any measurable difference in mileage. Not impossible, but interesting. I could see the possibility (more than a possibility actually) that the pumps at certain stations are way off in their volume calibration and therefore one is getting more (or less) fuel than the pump gauge reads!

'Our' AMPM just had their pumps recal'd because someone called the state to complain. Their pumps were right on.  Look at the sticker on the pump. Those things don't get checked very often.

On a side note about running high octane in a vehicle that does not require it: Some folks swear it runs better or gets better mileage. Others will argue "impossible!" On an ODB-II vehicle it is possible. The computer is constantly searching for max timing advance thru the knock sensor. Higher octane fuel will allow the baseline timing to eventually 'learn' its way up. More timing = more power. It can also cause you to fail a tailpipe test.

Your mileage may vary!  :chuckle:

No it uses alot more than just the oxygen sensor in OBDII vehicles to control fuel rate and delivery. Including but not limited to MAF,MAP,Timing Advance,Knock sensor(s), Cat Efficiency, etc. The fuel rate is constantly monitored and adjusted using Short term fuel trim and then after enough short term adjustments it switches to long term. The oxygen sensor just monitors what you are putting out pre and post cat and can make some adjustments but Ethanol has less energy that gas so to produce the same amount of power you use more Ethanol. Vehicles that are E85 compatible normally drop 3-7MPG when the switch using a totally different mapping system. (Sorry if this is rambling but I work on these all day long and write software for programmers). Normal changes from E10 to normal fuel usually produces a 2-5MPG  gain after 2-3 full tanks. Almost all cars today are not going to be harmed by E10 but shelf life of fuel with E10 is short with some windows only 30days. If you are filling at a station that turns over its fuel constantly you probably will not have any problems. For me it is a personal choice and I know my car runs better and smoother and gets better fuel mileage (your results may vary :chuckle: :tup:)

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Re: What station do you fuel up at?
« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2014, 10:27:42 AM »
IMy family fills up at the Mae Valley Conoco. Its easy in and easy out. One weekend a year we usually avoid that station is Memorial Day weekend!
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