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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2014, 12:54:33 PM »
Its one thing I love about my gold tips. I use their insert weight to get the foc where I want it and make legal weight.
Im shooting prohunters 300spine cut at 30" with a 100gr head, nockternal, and 50gr weight. Which puts me at 470grs, 13 foc and they fly great and penetrate so much I have a hard time not going through targets. :tup:
Hey demontang I have some goldtips I need to.add weight to but can't find a shop with.the inserts or the tool to add them. Where did you go ? I'm in Seattle area.

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2014, 05:52:38 PM »
Youll need the weights which screw into the back of the insert. I did my own just ordered from goldtip. Im not sure what shops on that side would have any of the pieces youll need. :dunno:

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2014, 06:12:40 PM »
I read that someone had a 84 lb draw.  Think of that arrow length at 27 in draw length.
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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2014, 07:50:57 PM »
I read that someone had a 84 lb draw.  Think of that arrow length at 27 in draw length.

You're talking about me  :chuckle:

My bow is pulling 84 lbs and I'm running Easton Axis arrows at 29" with wraps, 3 blazers, knock/insert and a 50 grain brass insert to get me right at 505 grains. And they still move at 293 fps.

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2014, 01:30:29 PM »
I have a suggestion for everybody.  If you shoot full length arrows you will never have this problem. :IBCOOL: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2014, 01:40:41 PM »

You're talking about me  :chuckle:

My bow is pulling 84 lbs and I'm running Easton Axis arrows at 29" with wraps, 3 blazers, knock/insert and a 50 grain brass insert to get me right at 505 grains. And they still move at 293 fps.

 :tup:

What bow you shooting? Er rather, which Hoyt?
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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2014, 07:46:08 PM »
Ok thanks guys. So I guess I need do the brass inserts or goto heavier broadhead, or stay with the 10+ gpi

You can also crank down your poundage a few pounds and not notice much of a difference in performance and be perfectly legal.

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2014, 08:11:20 PM »

You're talking about me  :chuckle:

My bow is pulling 84 lbs and I'm running Easton Axis arrows at 29" with wraps, 3 blazers, knock/insert and a 50 grain brass insert to get me right at 505 grains. And they still move at 293 fps.

 :tup:

What bow you shooting? Er rather, which Hoyt?

Shooting a 29" Carbon Spyder Turbo. 84lb draw & 505gr arrows getting 293 fps and 96-97 ft/lbs of energy. Lots of people ask why? Because I like as much penetration and energy as I can comfortably shoot.

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2014, 10:02:17 AM »
That's a beast of a set up. Some people are pretty adamant but I don't see issues with heavy poundage as long as you can hold it. Shoot 78# myself
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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2014, 10:37:50 AM »

You're talking about me  :chuckle:

My bow is pulling 84 lbs and I'm running Easton Axis arrows at 29" with wraps, 3 blazers, knock/insert and a 50 grain brass insert to get me right at 505 grains. And they still move at 293 fps.

 :tup:

What bow you shooting? Er rather, which Hoyt?

Shooting a 29" Carbon Spyder Turbo. 84lb draw & 505gr arrows getting 293 fps and 96-97 ft/lbs of energy. Lots of people ask why? Because I like as much penetration and energy as I can comfortably shoot.
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i woud have to agree with you guys. im shooting an 80 hoyt verctor turbo. i am in oregon right now so no arrow weight limit. shooting a 405 grain goldtipwith a 30 inch draw at 324 fps.

hey xXLojackXx what arrow are you shooting. i am going to be moving back to washington before archery season and i am trying to find a new arrow to meet weight. 480 grains is as low as i can go.

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2014, 11:58:56 AM »
Shooting an Easton Axis with wraps, 4 blazer vanes, and a 50gr brass insert

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2014, 12:04:27 PM »
I used to shoot over 70. I'm at 63 now. The arrows are screaming fast and my arrow weight is 422 with nightforce carbons - small diameter.

The easiest fixes would be changing to a 125 gr broadhead or dialing down your weight.
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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2014, 04:04:51 PM »
Any of you guys look at the VAPs hunting arrows? I did recently and with the extra insert, fletching, nock, etc I could make weight. Had a smaller small diameter than most arrows, 340 spine BUT the cost is significantly more. I think its an extra $40 to $60 for the heavier inserts. Are the arrows worth the extra money? Around $200+ for dozen arrows. Lots of great reviews. Not sure I like how they add the extra insert through. It adds good 1.5 inches to your arrow length. 

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2014, 04:14:10 PM »
Any of you guys look at the VAPs hunting arrows? I did recently and with the extra insert, fletching, nock, etc I could make weight. Had a smaller small diameter than most arrows, 340 spine BUT the cost is significantly more. I think its an extra $40 to $60 for the heavier inserts. Are the arrows worth the extra money? Around $200+ for dozen arrows. Lots of great reviews. Not sure I like how they add the extra insert through. It adds good 1.5 inches to your arrow length.

I have (11) VAP V1's you can buy  :tup: I shot 4 of them in practice out of my 70 lb bow and the rest are brand new. They are 30" with the inserts and weigh 343gr without a tip or broadhead. They're great arrows and fly excellent, I've shot 6" groups at 130 yards with them. $130 if you want them

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Re: arrow weight and being legal ?
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2014, 04:26:27 PM »
Any of you guys look at the VAPs hunting arrows? I did recently and with the extra insert, fletching, nock, etc I could make weight. Had a smaller small diameter than most arrows, 340 spine BUT the cost is significantly more. I think its an extra $40 to $60 for the heavier inserts. Are the arrows worth the extra money? Around $200+ for dozen arrows. Lots of great reviews. Not sure I like how they add the extra insert through. It adds good 1.5 inches to your arrow length.

Victory makes a good arrow but in general smaller diameter shafts have less stability with broadheads.  Doesn't mean you won't get good flight, but does mean you need to have some very good FOC numbers.  Small diameter shafts are great penetrators of plywood, automotive glass, static foam and sinter blocks.  However, their advantages on fluid filled animal tissues are highly over rated.  I prefer a more standard, easier to fletch full/max helical, more readily available shaft myself.  All the good arrows are starting to get expensive these days though they are not always necessary for hunting bows either.  VAP/Victory is a good product.  Just not my cup of tea.
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