collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Bowtech Question?  (Read 1980 times)

Offline Bowhunter41

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Dec 2013
  • Posts: 10
  • Location: tamoma
  • Groups: NRA.Tacoma Sportsmens
Bowtech Question?
« on: April 05, 2014, 09:18:52 PM »
Does anyone know if Bowtech shooters have ever won a ASAA competition? I was just curious I keep seeing Hoyt and Mathews but can't find any Bowtech wins.  Seems like they would have preformed with all that cutting edge technology. Got in a car wreck and have had a lot of time on my hands.Does anyone know how they did in Vegas?

Offline lostbackpacker

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 840
  • Location: Marysville,WA
Re: Bowtech Question?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2014, 09:32:59 PM »
Ask huntingaddiction. If he they haven't won I'm  sure he will have an excuse why!   :chuckle: :chuckle:
It is what you meant it to be...

Offline Greg Mullins

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 377
  • Location: Spanaway WA
Re: Bowtech Question?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2014, 09:48:34 PM »
The answer is no. And if they ever did I can't remember.

Offline Jellymon

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 1519
  • Location: Spanaway
Re: Bowtech Question?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2014, 09:58:56 PM »
Bowtech doesn't pay their target shooters as much as other brands do. Pros can shoot anything well, so they go where the money is.

It also doesn't help that Hoyts target bows are amazing. I have never felt a bow that balances and holds like my vantage elite. And they have that grip perfected.

I think Bowtechs true focus is on the hunting market.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2014, 10:49:23 PM by Jellymon »

Offline demontang

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2008
  • Posts: 3412
  • Location: Selah
Re: Bowtech Question?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2014, 10:39:39 PM »
 :yeah: the shooters seem to go to who ever pays the most for a win.

Offline RadSav

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 11342
  • Location: Vancouver
Re: Bowtech Question?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2014, 11:35:12 PM »
Money, money, money!!! 

The amount of winning one gets from bow and arrow contingencies is enough to rule out Bowtech from the serious target archers.  The money these top shooters get from the Hoyt and Mathews contingency isn't chump change.  I know two pro shooters that actually liked and shot more consistent scores with Martin when they had a good contingency program.  Both switched to Hoyt when the Martin money was no longer available.  Not that they thought it would help them win, but because that's the direction the money trail was leading.

I think the Bowtech Specialist would compete with any bow brand if it were in the hands of one of these top shooters.  But, that simply isn't going to happen.  These guys work hard and train hard to get where they are.  And when they win they want something in return!  Doesn't mean the Specialist isn't a great bow and couldn't win.  But few will ever try it if there is no compensation and we can hardly blame them for that.

It does suck when you are the Average Joe and want to buy a nice Hoyt or Mathews at a decent price.  As upwards of probably $100 in your purchase price is going towards the top shooters.  Those high prices aren't because it's a better bow or better materials.  They all cost basically the same to make.  It's that Hoyt and Mathews pay shooters better and advertise better.  That adds to the overhead and then that gets past on to the end consumer.

Just watch Elite in the next year or two.  I guarantee you that Levi and other top shooters aren't making the switch because they feel it's going to improve their chances of success.  Sure it's a good product and they believe they can win with it.  But without the money no way would they be making the switch.  I expect those bows to progressively meet or exceed Hoyt and Mathews prices soon.  You really can't start from the bottom in the competitive market and grow without it effecting prices rapidly.  Just the way business works.
He asked, Do you ever give a short simple answer?  I replied, "Nope."

Offline alwinearcher

  • Still here
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 1617
  • Location: chewelah
Re: Bowtech Question?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2014, 12:05:40 AM »
Money, money, money!!! 

The amount of winning one gets from bow and arrow contingencies is enough to rule out Bowtech from the serious target archers.  The money these top shooters get from the Hoyt and Mathews contingency isn't chump change.  I know two pro shooters that actually liked and shot more consistent scores with Martin when they had a good contingency program.  Both switched to Hoyt when the Martin money was no longer available.  Not that they thought it would help them win, but because that's the direction the money trail was leading.

I think the Bowtech Specialist would compete with any bow brand if it were in the hands of one of these top shooters.  But, that simply isn't going to happen.  These guys work hard and train hard to get where they are.  And when they win they want something in return!  Doesn't mean the Specialist isn't a great bow and couldn't win.  But few will ever try it if there is no compensation and we can hardly blame them for that.

It does suck when you are the Average Joe and want to buy a nice Hoyt or Mathews at a decent price.  As upwards of probably $100 in your purchase price is going towards the top shooters.  Those high prices aren't because it's a better bow or better materials.  They all cost basically the same to make.  It's that Hoyt and Mathews pay shooters better and advertise better.  That adds to the overhead and then that gets past on to the end consumer.

Just watch Elite in the next year or two.  I guarantee you that Levi and other top shooters aren't making the switch because they feel it's going to improve their chances of success.  Sure it's a good product and they believe they can win with it.  But without the money no way would they be making the switch.  I expect those bows to progressively meet or exceed Hoyt and Mathews prices soon.  You really can't start from the bottom in the competitive market and grow without it effecting prices rapidly.  Just the way business works.

 :yeah:
Elite is already spending time on the podium this year, I believe they are paying 15K for first place finishes while Mathews, Hoyt and PSE are 10K
Matt Alwine

Offline RadSav

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 11342
  • Location: Vancouver
Re: Bowtech Question?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2014, 01:21:54 AM »
Elite is already spending time on the podium this year, I believe they are paying 15K for first place finishes while Mathews, Hoyt and PSE are 10K

As I understand it most of the top pro shooters have deals that are not listed as general knowledge.  I've even heard of some that are good percentages of the pot.  Thought these links were interesting.

Elite is currently posting contingencies quite a bit below that above number http://www.elitearchery.com/community/contingency.php

I thought Easton use to be a good bit more :dunno:  http://www.eastonarchery.com/contingency-program

Interesting post on Lancaster's archery classic  http://www.lancasterarchery.com/archery-classic-contingency/
« Last Edit: April 06, 2014, 05:10:03 AM by RadSav »
He asked, Do you ever give a short simple answer?  I replied, "Nope."

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

HUNTNNW 2025 trail cam thread and photos by huntnnw
[Today at 01:10:59 PM]


Kings by metlhead
[Today at 12:37:26 PM]


Fullsized Truck Opinion: HiMiNew vs LoMiOlder by rainshadow1
[Today at 11:46:04 AM]


AKC lab puppies! Born 06/10/2025 follow as they grow!!! by scottfrick
[Today at 11:29:22 AM]


AUCTION: SE Idaho DIY Deer or Deer/Elk Hunt by Karl Blanchard
[Today at 10:47:28 AM]


Looking for Solid 22 LR input by C-Money
[Today at 07:52:53 AM]


Velvet by MADMAX
[Yesterday at 07:35:16 PM]


Advice for a first time Bear spot and stalk? by Crunchy
[Yesterday at 06:02:28 PM]


2025 Canning by Twispriver
[Yesterday at 05:00:03 PM]


WSTA 2025 Summer Rendezvous Agenda by Humptulips
[Yesterday at 03:09:35 PM]


2025 Montana alternate list by JBar
[Yesterday at 02:20:40 PM]


Rotator Cuff repair X 2 advice needed by Wood2Sawdust
[Yesterday at 01:36:26 PM]


Rock creek gone? Next? by JBar
[Yesterday at 01:00:56 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal