Hunt Ed Field Course Question

[Colville]

The course dates are either open but full, open and enrolling or future dates that will open to enroll later.

If a date is June 1 open for registration with a June 20 course date, what time does the registration open?  Midnight June 1?  6AM, some other time? 

I know that some courses fill really quickly so does a guy need to log on at 12:01 am?  This is for a junior member of our family.  Thanks

[ghosthunter]

The class should come available the first minute of the day the instructor selected to allow registration .

The reason they are doing this is because people would sign up for several classes. Than never show up because they found one closer or better dates. So hundreds of seats were un filled. And hundreds of students could not find a class.

They are hoping shorting the time between sign up and class will curb this problem.

[Bob33]

The class should come available the first minute of the day the instructor selected to allow registration .

That's not correct.

Classes become available for registration at 10:00 p.m. Pacific time. A class that has a June 1 registration opening will be available at 22:00 on May 31.

[bobcat]

That's good to know! Colville, thanks for asking the question!

[Bob33]

Many of our online sessions are full by 10:02.

[ghosthunter]

I might be wrong. But I was told today that they have put a clock which shows when the class would allow students to register . Because the old setting was for a different time zone thus triggering the two hour difference.

It is my understanding from the IST I attended today that that issue has been corrected.

Maybe I understood it wrong.

[Bob33]

I might be wrong. But I was told today that they have put a clock which shows when the class would allow students to register . Because the old setting was for a different time zone thus triggering the two hour difference.

It is my understanding from the IST I attended today that that issue has been corrected.

Maybe I understood it wrong.

Good to hear if they corrected it. Kalkomey's computers are in the Midwest, and the registration was run on that time zone.

[ghosthunter]

I just checked the student view of my upcoming class.

There is now a clock at the top of the page which is counting down to the second when a student can register for my class.

OP
Go to the info page for any class and view the clock. It will answer you question.

The on line registration is changing on almost a daily basis fixing bugs.

[bobcat]

I just went and looked at the class I'm wanting to get my daughter registered in, and yep, I see the countdown clock as well.

[ghosthunter]

 

[Bob33]

The clock is still referencing 22:00 as when registration opens for our next course.

[bobcat]

You're right. So I will have to be ready to register at 10 PM.

[salmonfinder]

I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.

[Stein]

I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.

When my daughter took it they shot a rolling block .22.  I wouldn't worry too much about the field session.  I sat in the in-person class with her and was really glad we did it that way.  Great time together and I think she got much more out of it than the online version.  That said, I did online and it was a quality program too. 

[Bob33]

It depends on the particular course. Many do not include live fire as part of the online skills evaluation. All should include some form of firearms handling.

Not knowing how a particular action works would not cause a student to fail. Pointing a firearm at someone or carelessly handling a firearm would, regardless of the action. If a student does not know how an action works, ask the instructor.

[salmonfinder]

OK great! Thank you for the info guys. She has been learning on a break .22. Also has shot bolt and semi .22. I just wanna make sure she is familiar with the types they use. She will be 12 at the end of august. So I am hoping I can get her in the field course thing this year.

[ELKBURGER]

I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.

Ive been to 3 different field courses in the last 6 years with various family members. Each one was at a different location with different instructors and a different curriculum. Each class was good and got the material across.
The most recent field course took place within Vancouver city limits at an outdoor trap club. No rimfire or centerfire rifles were used. The students had to shoot a 20 Gauge at a flying clay target. They also shot BB guns and bow and arrows.

[Gringo31]

Good Info!

[Bob33]

I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.

Ive been to 3 different field courses in the last 6 years with various family members. Each one was at a different location with different instructors and a different curriculum. Each class was good and got the material across.
The most recent field course took place within Vancouver city limits at an outdoor trap club. No rimfire or centerfire rifles were used. The students had to shoot a 20 Gauge at a flying clay target. They also shot BB guns and bow and arrows.

I'm not sure but that sounds more like a traditional course rather than an online skills evaluation session.

[salmonfinder]

I hope they weren't required to hit the clay to pass? OK I will get her working on her 20 gauge skills! She hasn't been able to shoot hers this year yet.

[Bob33]

I hope they weren't required to hit the clay to pass? OK I will get her working on her 20 gauge skills! She hasn't been able to shoot hers this year yet.

Absolutely not. SAFE FIREARMS HANDLING is the primary thing she will be evaluated on.

[salmonfinder]

Once again thank you all

[fair-chase]

I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.

Just sat through a field day for the traditional course. This is what they had the kids do...

- 50 rounds of .22 rifle at steel target 25 yards
- 3 clay pigeons (separately) with the option of either 12 or 20 gauge
- 3 rounds from .243 rifle at steel target 100 yards
- 20-30 minutes of obstacle course with unloaded rifle

As Bob mentioned, hitting the target was not a requirement. It was all about muzzle control and safe handling. One thing to keep in mind, the instructors at this particular course would intermittently slip the students the wrong ammunition (dummy rounds) that were close enough in size to fit into the firearm. If the student failed to check the ammunition before loading, or attempted to load and fire the dummy round they were given a strike. Three strikes and you were out. So get her in the habit of always checking and matching each and every round to the rifle she is shooting.

[salmonfinder]

Sweet! Looks like I have to get her more used to her .243 also. Thanks.
You know what grain they were using in the .243?

[fair-chase]

Not sure what grain they were using. 12 years of age and older seemed to handle it fine, but it was a little rough on the younger ones. I would suggest a heavy jacket or sweatshirt if the child is recoil sensitive.

[returnofsid]

All great information!  We'll be in a similar situation, with our daughter, Madison and her Mom, Angie, in the near future.  The plan is for both of them to study and spend some time with various guns, this summer, take the online course, when they're ready, OR an in class course during the winter or early spring, then the field test. All the while, we'll all be putting in lots of time with each of our bows. Hopefully, by next spring, Madison will be shooting 40 lbs accurately and ready for Spring Turkey!

[ELKBURGER]

The hunters ed instructors told me the traditional classes are slowly being phased out. The online course and a field day is the way of the future.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

My sons eight turns nine in oct.  He is doing the traditional class this weekend.  He was doing it online and got over half way but it seems very repetitive and extensive for a nine year old.  I'm not saying it shouldn't be just that the in class course seems more direct and gets to the point.  I hope he passes this weekend but if not well register again for another one.  Has anyone had an eight or nine year old complete the hunters ed class?  Wether a parent or instructor?

[Bob33]

We have had several eight year olds and a few seven years old pass our traditional course.

[Stein]

My sons eight turns nine in oct.  He is doing the traditional class this weekend.  He was doing it online and got over half way but it seems very repetitive and extensive for a nine year old.  I'm not saying it shouldn't be just that the in class course seems more direct and gets to the point.  I hope he passes this weekend but if not well register again for another one.  Has anyone had an eight or nine year old complete the hunters ed class?  Wether a parent or instructor?

My daughter passed the in-person class when she was 9.  The hardest part for her was a few memorization things, but not a big deal.  I think she only missed one or two on the written test.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

He knows all about firearm safety and can recite the major safety rules of firearms on command.  He has shot my ar-15 and seemed comfortable.  I don't think a 243 will be too much.  He doesn't have any experience carrying a firearm with a group of people though.  so we are gonna do a field course at the house every evening this week.  Just to practice the field course before the day of. I think hell do fine.  I'm more worried than he is I think.  I cant wait till he does pass it.  Even if its not on fathers day, it will be a time to cherish. 

[Bob33]

If he knows what a muzzle is, and he knows what people look like, and he understands that he doesn't point (1) at (2), then he should be fine for the field course activities.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

He knows all of what you stated.  But I think its not as easy as you make it out bob.  I mean yeah muzzle person don't point.  But when a group of people are in the field it he will be very unfamiliar to the situation.  He knows the rules to a t but how well can he demonstrate and utilize the safety rules while being scrutinized.  Like I said im sure hell be fine.  Well just get some group scenario practice in this week and by the field day he should be more comfortable.

[Bob33]

He knows all of what you stated.  But I think its not as easy as you make it out bob.  I mean yeah muzzle person don't point.  But when a group of people are in the field it he will be very unfamiliar to the situation.  He knows the rules to a t but how well can he demonstrate and utilize the safety rules while being scrutinized.  Like I said im sure hell be fine.  Well just get some group scenario practice in this week and by the field day he should be more comfortable.

It really is about that simple. He can trip, he can miss targets, he can walk the wrong way. If he doesn't point a gun at someone, he should not fail.

Policy: Teaching of the eight basic handling skills is not to be treated as a pass/fall activity, with some exceptions. Those exceptions are:
 Failure to respond to training for the same handling skill on at least three occasions (three strikes and you are out).
 Student attitude.
 One occurrence of egregious muzzle-control (egregious is defined as blatant or outstandingly bad)

[Oldguy]

In classes where live-fire is offered, students may opt out. They may instead choose to go through the associated steps using dummy ammo. Select a firearm, select the correct dummy ammo and safely load and unload the firearm while exhibiting safe handling during the scenario.

Page 21 of instructors manual

Most all classes now use the WDFW provided firearms from Mossberg with orange stocks and no firing pins. There is a variety of actions that would be common in hunting; bolt, lever, break, pump and semi-auto.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

So my son just passed his course in pe ell.  He got 71 out of 75 questions right on the written exam and he center punched the target twice with the .223.  For an eight year old id say he did good.

[returnofsid]

So my son just passed his course in pe ell.  He got 71 out of 75 questions right on the written exam and he center punched the target twice with the .223.  For an eight year old id say he did good.

Now there's a reason to be proud!  Congratulations and I'm sure there will be many Father/Son hunts in your futures!