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Re: Giant Seattle Times article about Kesselring's
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2014, 07:07:46 PM »
WOW  interesting to say the least!!

Loved their "excuse" of "putting the Public at risk"! :bash:

My :twocents: the Public is more at RISK over the illegal aliens and corrupt Politicians, more then Stolen or lost guns, even when they usually wind up in criminal activity.  BUT then IT IS the Criminal who is the danger!!

In my book the ATF is no different then ALL the other "agency's" and at time the WORST, if you've followed their "history" at all!!
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Re: Giant Seattle Times article about Kesselring's
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 08:01:43 PM »
Mr. Faller, how would you have handled it?

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Re: Giant Seattle Times article about Kesselring's
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2014, 07:34:07 AM »
Mr. Faller, how would you have handled it?

I think he's more interested in bellyaching than facing the fact that Kesselrings was a gigantic fail.

Don Kesselring has to blame others also:
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The company surrendered its license effective Oct. 1, 2013. Don Kesselring blamed the downfall of the 66-year-old business on dishonest employees, lax security, an outdated paper accounting system, and what he termed an “unprofessional” ATF audit.
(from the Seattle Times)

If a company had the financial wherewithal to withstand the embezzlement of $850,000, they should have been able to afford the cost of modern accounting, security and record keeping systems.  Dead men tell no tales, so the deceased Brad Kesselring makes an ideal target of blame to explain back door deals.  It would seem that allegation may warrant more investigation.

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Re: Giant Seattle Times article about Kesselring's
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2014, 08:43:03 AM »
Sorry boys, giving my  :twocents: is totally different then "bellyaching"! :IBCOOL:

I hate seeing anyone FAIL  >:(  (nice try, but no banana) but if your not paying attention to "business" it will happen.

There is blame on everyone's part.  ATF for not doing their job all those years, obliviously some  family "issues".  BAD employees, and a record keeping system that should have been dealt years earlier.





 
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Re: Giant Seattle Times article about Kesselring's
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 08:46:15 AM »
This has been covered already. Sorry...but yes....the shoddy practices by this place does create a risk. Who knows who was getting guns that shouldn't have. I've got no sympathy. They simply did a terrible job at what they were supposed to do. Yes, I've been to their shop. They don't follow the rules for whatever reason....shut 'em down. No bias from media is going to skew the story either way....they were a massive failure and should have been shut down much much sooner.

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Re: Giant Seattle Times article about Kesselring's
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2014, 09:04:08 AM »
This has been covered already. Sorry...but yes....the shoddy practices by this place does create a risk. Who knows who was getting guns that shouldn't have. I've got no sympathy. They simply did a terrible job at what they were supposed to do. Yes, I've been to their shop. They don't follow the rules for whatever reason....shut 'em down. No bias from media is going to skew the story either way....they were a massive failure and should have been shut down much much sooner.

 :yeah:

I have no idea as to the internal hurdles the ATF was or wasn't facing.  I do know that many gun stores have managed to do it right for many years.

One can certainly question the ATFs efficiency (or lack thereof) in this case, but their actions and timelines had no bearing whatsoever on the Kesselring's failure to run their business in accordance with the law.
Matthew 7:13-14

 


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