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If you have not looked at the details of this bill... you should It looks like a ban on any weapon that is not specifically "allowed"

The Attorney General apparently has the ability to declare guns "non sporting".

Which means they could be intending to redefine the 2nd Amendment for "sporting purposes only".

They've completely turned things around. Instead of "banning"  specific weapons, all are assumed banned unless listed.


From what I've read in the pages of this bill the assault on Mr., Mrs., Ms., and Miss hunter, gun collector, fire arms enthusiast has started. The Democrats see light between the sheets and are going for the gold. This bill if allowed to pass will be the beginning of the end for gun ownership as I can remember.


And here is the link.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-6257

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 06:27:39 PM »
sisu,

Yes I was aware of this bill. Everyone keeps telling me I am paranoid   :dunno:  Obama and the politicians are not after our guns.

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 06:48:52 PM »
We are in for some big time trouble the next 4 years. They haven't even taken over yet.  :'(

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 07:23:15 PM »
Sisu that isn't the only one, there are 4 versions of this bill sitting in committees waiting.  I read all of them and the backup foot in the door bill that is more likely to pass.

I think I posted the bills and numbers in another thread I will see if I can find it.

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2008, 07:38:51 PM »
Here they are there are 5 .....they seem to have all their ducks in a row......my guess is the gun show bill will be the first to pass. 

1 . Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.1022.IH]

2 . Child Gun Safety and Gun Access Prevention Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.256.IH]

3 . Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 (Introduced in House)[H.R.6257.IH]

4 . Detectives Nemorin and Andrews Anti-Gun Trafficking Act of 2008 (Introduced in House)[H.R.4818.IH]

5 . Crime Control and Prevention Act of 2007 (Introduced in Senate)[S.2237.IS] 

related bills Gun show background check act S.2577

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2008, 07:49:03 PM »
All I can say right now is we are F*^%ed.

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2008, 09:31:42 PM »
I have been following gun rights issues since I got out of school almost 20 years ago. I have been a volunteer for NRA and the Friends/NRA, I have worked for 2 dealers part time, I was a VP at the local gun club and been very active in shooting competition.
 I am not an expert by any means, but I've been around a bit.

Gun owners need to wake up........... We are about to get our asses kicked big time.

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2008, 10:06:10 PM »
Most people will pay attention after it is too late. It will be a repeat of England. The marches will happen after the people have lost. That's my prediction. I watch complacent gun owners all the time. A lot of them are not very engaged in protecting their rights.

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 05:34:18 AM »
Here is my letter which I sent through the NRA at Site http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/?lvl=C

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Dear Mr. Inslee,

As one of your voting constituents, I am writing to you to express my
disgust in a proposed House Bill. The Bill I am referring to is HR 6257.

It has been proven that violent criminals will never care about what laws
are written, and that restricting the rights of good citizens has no
effect on violent crime. Washington DC and New York are perfect examples,
with some of the highest crime and most restrictive gun laws in the nation.

As a voter, law abiding gun owner, shooter, firearms collector, hunter,
outdoorsman, and former serviceman, I find it necessary to contact my
representatives and remind you to represent your constituents as opposed
to treating them as your servent.

HR 6257 is a horrible, treasonous bill that would, among other things,
criminalize manufacture and sale of practically all semi-automatic
firearms, for no good reason and in direct opposition of our US
Constitution. I need your help in defending our Constitution from its
domestic enemies. I need you to vote against HR 6257 in any form. I also
ask that you speak against any such laws at the first opportunity, and use
your influence to prevent further introduction of the same in the House
when possible.

I personally will not stand for any elected official who tells me that
they are rational for regulating excessively against law abiding citizens
on gun ownership and sales in order to fight crime. The criminals are not
obeying the laws we have now. Therefore we don't need to make more laws we
need to start arresting and prosecuting the criminals in America. I will
vote 100% based upon my Constitutional Rights and that includes the 2nd
Amendment in the Bill of Rights.

Please continue to support law-abiding citizens, and our Constitution by
letting any co-sponsors know that the American people want crime control
and not more restrictive gun control as presented in HR 6257.

The 2nd Amendment of our Constitution is very clear, "…The right of the
people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this letter and thank you
for your service to our country and the State of Washington. As this is a
very actively discussed subject on the internet, be prepared to receive
other phone calls and letters, as I am one of many of your constituents
that feel the same about this type of outlandish proposed bill.

I look forward to your personal response.


Sincerely,

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 06:56:48 AM »
Here is my letter which I sent through the NRA at Site http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/?lvl=C

Ray,
You are well informed and well spoken (and I don't think your TOO paranoid  :chuckle:), so I hope you don't mind that I copied your letter virtually word-for-word and sent my own email to Mr. Inslee.

The way I read it, I don't think that HR 6257 is a ban on all weapons not specifically allowed, but I absolutely oppose ANY form of restriction which will provide a "foot in the door". Congress will continue to chip away at our rights until they have complete control if we don't do something.  >:( I found the links in this thread to be very informative and useful.

I was told a long time ago - "If you tell me there is a problem and you do something about it; then that is useful to me. If you come to me bitching that there is a problem but do nothing about it; then... you're just a bitch."

Contacting my representative is a pretty small effort, but it's better than being a bitch.
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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2008, 06:24:21 PM »
Very well said Ray.   Mine usually say "I don't like it and I vote"  :chuckle:

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2008, 09:50:46 AM »
Thanks for the list Runamuk,
I just got done writing Cantwell and Murray.

In Canada I read that less than 30% of the estimated number of guns owned were actually registered in the time limit given.
Don't sound like they like it much either.

The election was all about Bush and republicans, that slime bag Obama never said a damn word about what "change" he wanted. I think he picked Biden and Clinton(Sect. of State) to protect him self, kinda like insurance, if he dies it just gets worse!!!!!
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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2008, 10:27:06 AM »
Just did mine thru,

http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/

I think everyone on this forum should and post afterwards. Might get a few off their azzes and make a difference.  Can this be a sticky?
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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2008, 09:32:17 AM »
I finnaly got around to reading the original link to the proposed bill.Seems they have missed a few on the allowed list,under slide action shotguns I noticed there are no Benellis listed,so would that make my super nova illegal if this passed? So a simple oversight in compiling this list could make me a criminal,yes I would be a criminal,there is no way in hell I'ld be handing it over.

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2008, 10:10:20 AM »
Below is some contact info for our various state representatives and below that a link to get you to the home page for  the U.S. Senate where you can email Sen. Maria Cantwell & Sen. Patty Murray.  As stated earlier in this forum we need to get unified and let our voices be heard or we will get our collective AZZs kicked.
 
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Gov. Christine Gregoire (D) 360-902-4111
State Legislature Links
Sen. Maria Cantwell (D) Fax: 202-228-0514
Sen. Patty Murray (D) Fax: 202-224-0238
Rep. Jay Inslee (D-1) Fax: 202-226-1606
Rep. Rick Larsen (D-2) Fax: 202-225-4420
Rep. Brian Baird (D-3) Fax: 202-225-3478
Rep. Doc Hastings (R-4) Fax: 202-225-3251
Rep. Cathy McMorris (R-5) Fax: 202-225-3392
Rep. Norman Dicks (D-6) Fax: 202-226-1176
Rep. Jim McDermott (D-7) Fax: 202-225-6197
Rep. Dave Reichert (R-8) Fax: 202-225-4282
Rep. Adam Smith (D-9) Fax: 202-225-5893

http://www.senate.gov/

Another site to get active on is http://www.righttokeepandbeararms.com/; under the Patrick Henry forums you will find below link where they are trying to coordinate national rallies.
http://www.righttokeepandbeararms.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2008, 06:48:16 PM »
Thanks for the info.  I don't think they will try to mess with the 2nd, they get at ownership and use with taxes of monstrous proprotions on ammo and reloading components,  the 'bullet id' legislation in several states, etc.

Here is website for tracking legislation in DC...      http://www.opencongress.org/bill/all
It takes a lot of time to keep up, but we must.
It never changes, but it is always different.

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2008, 06:12:48 AM »


Well, this may be a provocative question but....(and a little honesty here)....did anyone here vote for Mr. Obama?

A lot of people buying guns in Bellevue and Tacoma actually admit they did, and now they are stocking up figuring that they won't be available in 6 months or a year. Gun shop guys have told me that many of their new customers have been self-described Democrats.

So, it's a fair question, particularly in the wake of the American Hunters and Shooters Association's fervent pro-Obama campaign efforts. 

So, did anyone here vote for Obama?  There's no wrong answer here.  I'm not going to suggest that anyone be lynched (someone else will beat me to it, I expect   :)  )



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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2008, 12:07:39 PM »
Got a reply from Mr. Inslee on this and HR 4900 yesterday. Virtually identical replies, but a better response than I got from Mayor Nickels on his proposed ban.

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Thank you for contacting me again regarding protecting the second amendment. As always, I appreciate hearing from you.

I believe that Members of Congress must keep the lines of communication open between themselves and constituents.  My most important duty as your Representative is to listen to your concerns and ideas and represent your views, to the best of my abilities, in Congress.

As you know, H.R. 6257, the Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008, would reinstate the assault weapons ban for 10 years.  This bill has been referred to the House Committee on Judiciary, of which I am not a member.  Should this legislation be reintroduced in the 111th Congress, I will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind.

As the 111th Congress addresses gun safety issues, I would like you to know that I believe that law-abiding adults and non felons, should have the ability to own firearms for hunting, target shooting, recreational purposes, and self-protection.  My goals during future gun safety debates will be to preserve our Second Amendment rights while keeping firearms out of the hands of criminals and untrained children.

You may also be interested to know that during the 109th Congress I voted for the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006 (H.R. 5013). This bill would have prohibited the confiscation of legally possessed firearms during a national emergency in areas where such arms are permitted. However, H.R. 5013 was not considered by the Senate before the 109th Congress adjourned and, therefore, was not enacted into law.

Please continue to contact me about the issues that concern you, as I both need and welcome your thoughts and ideas. I encourage you to contact me via email, telephone, or fax, because security measures in the House cause delays in receiving postal mail. For more information on my activities in Congress, and for information on services that my office can provide, please visit my website at http://www.house.gov/inslee. If you would like to subscribe to my email updates, please visit http://www.house.gov/inslee/signup.htm.

Very truly yours,

JAY INSLEE
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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2008, 05:17:15 AM »
I did not vote for Obama.  I sw what they had done to Illinois.  Enogh said.

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Re: Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2009, 07:05:42 PM »
Wildlifeassasin

I would like to ask you a question.  Fienstien has publicly stated that the happiest day of her life will be when she can"Mr and MRS  America, turn them all in."  Your choice for president has a dismal record when it comes to gun rights.  If you are told by your president and his party to turn them all in, will you.  Yes or No.  I have been in this fight since the 1960's.  We are losing.   

 


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