predator hunting nearish to whatcom county

[tlbradford]

I don't see any problem with what uncoolperson was asking either.  I am extremely grateful for the teachers that I have had in my life.  I learned more in a day with an experienced fur hunter, than a year of reading books and articles, most of which are written by *censored*ters who suck on the teet of an experienced hunter.  Getting out there is the most important part.  He was looking for honey holes, just someone to take him out and show him the ropes.  Hell you can teach a person how to call in an area without any coyotes.  I have been able to share more knowledge when coyotes don't respond because you can go through all the variables that might have occurred on that stand.  It sounds like you two have been burned on showing people your spots, and that is a lesson most of us have learned.  Asking for a hunting partner to show them the ropes and offering up what he did in appreciation is pretty stand up in my opinion.  

Uncool, if you ever get over to Spokane, I'll be more than happy to take you out.

Coyote hunting is the most accessable hunting there is.  No season, bag limit, night or day, any weapon, and unit doesn't matter.

Gee, I wonder why uncoolperson feels a little overwhelmed.  Maybe because of all the variables in hunting the most adaptable predator in the world.  If you started from nothing and were not introduced to the sport by anyone, that is amazing that you have taught yourself to be such a proficient coyote hunter, and I commend you for that.  Maybe when you have been doing it even longer, you will be able to enjoy seeing someone take their first coyote, or get all shaky and miss a shot at five yards.  To me that is what is so enjoyable about coyote hunting, more so than putting up big numbers of dead animals.

[runamuk]

Uncool... I haven't hunted coyotes yet but I already have 3 areas worth trying...... that is if I decide to get a call and give it a shot...lol..... I admit I live in coyote central but it isn't too tough to hit the trail and start looking for signs......

I don't think I've been anywhere that there weren't coyotes...... and it is fun to get out of the house.....

Up in your area I'd be asking around with the local farmers being calving and lambing season they usually want the yotes gone and are happy to tell you where to find them....lol

[uncoolperson]

hey billie, you are not getting what most of us are trying to say.  Yes i know there are nice people on this site that are willing to take out new guys and i get that.  but what we are all saying is just try for yourself for a while and then ask, don't just say you want to do something and you need someone to get you into it.  Have you ever heard the saying, "If i had to exlpain it, you wouldn't understand anyway."  If Uncool is that green and has never been once, how would any advice help.  What would he have to compare it to.  Coyote hunting is the most accessable hunting there is.  No season, bag limit, night or day, any weapon, and unit doesn't matter.  To say that you have no time to take yourself out but you will have time if someone else takes you is BS.  It seems to me that you just nominated yourself to teach him take him along so good luck, if you need any pointers just ask.

So, If I don't know what I'm doing you can't help... okay, I think I get that.
No it's not BS, did you read my post or just make an assumption of what you wanted me to say?

I've asked for pointers in the most general sense, or was that offer of pointers not directed to me (because I wouldn't understand)?

or some general directions (what and how, as well as where if possible).

The main thing is don't be afraid to call. Sometimes they come in when your all screwed up. Anything you put out as far as a call goes is closer to success than silence. Just give it a whirl some guys hook up at thier first stand others during thier second season. I learned to call by watching dvd's. I'm not the best for sure but I get my share. Best of luck to you.

Thanks, helpful to know screwing up as badly as possible (or as expected in my case worse than possible) isn't all that bad.

I do intended to give this a shot, waiting for a few things to work themselves out first before I go a little crazy

[stumprat]

Thanks, helpful to know screwing up as badly as possible (or as expected in my case worse than possible) isn't all that bad.

I do intended to give this a shot, waiting for a few things to work themselves out first before I go a little crazy
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Wow you sure take things out of context. I was just trying to say don't let fear of sounding bad scare ya out of trying.

[uncoolperson]

Thanks, helpful to know screwing up as badly as possible (or as expected in my case worse than possible) isn't all that bad.

I do intended to give this a shot, waiting for a few things to work themselves out first before I go a little crazy

Wow you sure take things out of context. I was just trying to say don't let fear of sounding bad scare ya out of trying.

That's what I sad. or atleast meant.

edit: my post was intended to be self insulting humor.

[stumprat]

Cool. Hang out and read alot. Check out some good dvd's. Your day will come. Someone in your area will help you out.

[furbearer365]

Hey uncool, i guess you understand and i swear i am not trying to sound like a total dick.  But in the area i live many know me as an avid predator hunter and all the time i see people who want info from me that I got just by a little hard work.  I said it before and i will say it again, i am more than willing to give any advice you want maybe even some areas but i have a hard time because it SEEMS you haven't done much to learn thusfar.  So i guess i ask you, what have you done specifically to start up hunting coyotes.  What have been your first steps to getting into it.  Have you got an area that may have coyotes, have you scouted, do you own a call and if so what kind, have you bought any books or dvds.  I think the preaching is over just go out and give them a try, that is the best advice you could get.  If you go out and put in the footwork,  I swear it will pay off.  Just don't overcall an area.  The biggest mistake a rookie can make is calling in the same spot time after time.  I only call the same spot twice in a year and make it at least 1 month apart and use a different sound each time.  Good luck

[stumprat]

Hey uncool, i guess you understand and i swear i am not trying to sound like a total dick.  But in the area i live many know me as an avid predator hunter and all the time i see people who want info from me that I got just by a little hard work.  I said it before and i will say it again, i am more than willing to give any advice you want maybe even some areas but i have a hard time because it SEEMS you haven't done much to learn thusfar.  So i guess i ask you, what have you done specifically to start up hunting coyotes.  What have been your first steps to getting into it.  Have you got an area that may have coyotes, have you scouted, do you own a call and if so what kind, have you bought any books or dvds.  I think the preaching is over just go out and give them a try, that is the best advice you could get.  If you go out and put in the footwork,  I swear it will pay off.  Just don't overcall an area.  The biggest mistake a rookie can make is calling in the same spot time after time.  I only call the same spot twice in a year and make it at least 1 month apart and use a different sound each time.  Good luck

Good info right there!

[billythekidrock]

hey billie, you are not getting what most of us are trying to say.  Yes i know there are nice people on this site that are willing to take out new guys and i get that.  but what we are all saying is just try for yourself for a while

Obviously I do get it. Read my post to him about getting out on his own.

It seems to me that you just nominated yourself to teach him and take him along so good luck

And I would teach him if he wanted to come all the way down here.

if you need any pointers just ask.

Yea right.

Hey uncool, i guess you understand and i swear i am not trying to sound like a total dick.  

Too late.

[JoshT]

Billy... you're a much respected guy here... if fur and I seem out of line... we probably are to some extent. For that I appologize, but I don't think fur or myself was trying to be an dick... sometimes tough love is hard to type, you know?

I've introduced more people to coyote hunting than I can count on both hands... and feet. There's nothing more rewarding than having a dog come charging in and seeing it for that very first time... most folks are shaking so bad they miss... terribly. I'm sure fur has done the same. All of those folks, with few exceptions, had tried to call dogs... fruitlessly... so the reward and the lessons learned were appreciated on a much greater level. It's like taking a total nube who's never caught a fish before down the 'nooch w/ a guide... and hooking them into a 15# nate steelie... they can't truly appreciate it... and they get spoiled.

How much better would uncool's post have been received... had it looked like this:

Hey, I live up in Whatcom county and I'm pretty new to hunting coyotes. I found a couple of roads that have some good access up toward Mt. Baker, and got permission to hunt a couple of small woodlots up around Ferndale. Try as I might... I just can't seem to call a coyote in. I know they're there... I see scat and tracks that look like they were left by a coyote, so I pretty sure I've got some huntable areas. Is there anyone in the Bellingham area that wouldn't mind a nube tagging along... or showing me the ropes in a couple of the areas I've found? I'll kick in for gas... and maybe even buy dinner. Any help or tips would be appreciated... I've watched every video I can get my hands on... and even practice my calls in the car. Thanks in advance for the help.

Now... had I seen that... I'd have shot him a PM with some good info. We killed over 100 dogs in 3 straight years in Whatcom county... that don't mean that everyone should have access to them though.

[uncoolperson]

josh, thanks for the general what and how, and a little bit about the where.


I'm still not a democrat, and I don't need any of your love.

[JoshT]

Never called you one... just said it sounded like that type of behavior.

Seriously though... head up Mt. Baker Hwy. past the Nooksack Casino... find a spur road... and drive around. There's good country off the Mosquito Lake road, the North Fork road, and even south on Hwy. 9 (a lot of that is private... but it's sweet country). Most of what's huntable don't look anything like the videos you've seen... this thick reprod or steep jungle... but there's dog everywhere up there. Set up, watch your wind, sit freaking still, and blow on a call... see what happens. Sumas mountain is another spot that we've killed a lot of dogs on... easy access from B'ham... and the grouse hunting up there in Sept. is awesome too.

Sorry if you thought I was being a dick... I guess I kind of was. Get out and put in some work... let us know how it goes.

[uncoolperson]

Up in your area I'd be asking around with the local farmers being calving and lambing season they usually want the yotes gone and are happy to tell you where to find them....lol

best contact I have with farmers is my wife (works at a vet clinic), I've had her keeping her ears open for me.

[jackelope]

she/you need to ask for access, not just listen. 

[tlbradford]

JoshT and Furbearer.  Thank you for the follow-up posts.  I think they explained a lot of your feelings in a constructive manner.  I agree with much of what you said. 

JoshT, you are exactly right in your example of how a post should be written when looking for help, and that would have gone over better.  Hopefully, uncoolperson learned something from everyones input in how to ask for help.

Now back to hunting

Just don't overcall an area.  The biggest mistake a rookie can make is calling in the same spot time after time.  I only call the same spot twice in a year and make it at least 1 month apart and use a different sound each time.  Good luck

furbearer if I remember correctly, you have to travel to hunt the productive east side areas, so that explains the number of times you call an area.  If not, and you are closer to your hunting areas than you can hit the best areas more often than that without effecting the quality of your stands too much.  The absolute best areas that hold coyotes usually have an abundance of a prey species and are in an area that hold coyotes all the time.  If you kill enough coyotes or the dominant coyotes in that area, then that void will be filled with new coyotes almost immediately.  Sometimes within 24 hours.  Many studies have been done in areas where aerial gunning or extensive trapping has been utilized, that show the population is back to prekill levels within a week, especially if control methods in adjacent areas are not being used.

What you really need to guard against is educating those coyotes, by misses, or association, with killing their buddies.  Using different sounds, like you mentioned in your post, goes a long ways to doing that. 

So make sure you shoot all of the coyotes you see on a stand.  If only it were that easy, it would be easy.