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Offline Dan-o

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2015, 12:51:29 AM »
I shoot a Black Diamond XR.

My load:   150 grains of Pyrodex and a 400 grain hard cast lead HARVESTER bullet.

They beat the whiz out of elk.   Incredible wound channel.
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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2015, 11:36:54 PM »
The Black Diamonds are legal in WA right? I just inherited my grandpas and wanted to start using it. I have no clue about muzzle loaders. Any classes or anything I can take?

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2015, 07:37:28 AM »
Wooley Runner,

I'm in about the same boat as you. I'm pretty new to muzzleloading, and I've researched a lot of stuff, but finding somebody who knows much about it is tough.

I visited the Cabelas store in Lacey yesterday, and I was pleasantly surprised to find that the guy in the gun section was very knowledgeable about muzzleloading, and he took quite a bit of time to talk with me about my concerns about ammo, which guns are legal here in WA, etc. He gave me some tips and pointers, and I was glad I took the time to drive down to Lacey and check it out. I see you're not terribly far from that store, so you may want to stop in. His name was John. He actually hunts muzzleloader season mostly with replica long rifles, but he knows quite a bit about the more modern styles like the in-lines, etc.
 
I've gone to quite a number of stores here locally, and the best the other stores could do up until I went to Cabelas was point me to the muzzleloading accessories rack and walk away. Let's face it, with help like that, I can do MUCH better shopping online, with a better selection.

I enjoyed the human connection, so I'll definitely go back to Cabelas.  Pretty good prices on the Powermaster bullets, too.

I had a good experience there, and I thought you might want to check it out.

There are also quite a number of Youtube videos online. You can spend all day watching those! Usually when you get stuck on something, somebody else out there has gone through the same thing, and has made a video for others to help them through it. Very helpful at times.

Good luck!

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2015, 08:06:52 AM »
Barnes TMZ and 110gr 777.  German musket cap.

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2015, 02:21:29 PM »
Thanks for the tip jmsurra. I will head up there on my next days off. What style bullet etc are you running?

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2015, 02:25:44 PM »
Wish you guys were closer....I would gladly take someone to the range to assist.  I learned mostly on my own and it was frustrating at times.....though once I figured it out, it was really fun and rewarding.   Find someone in your area that has a decent knowledge of muzzle loaders and pick their brain.  See if they will take you to the range to show you the ropes.  Really it is quite easy, just a important things to know so you don't kill yourself.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: 

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2015, 10:20:02 PM »
good to have a chrono..cause some are wasting alot of powder...I shoot 90 gr of triple 7 and a 300 gr BArnes out of mine..any more powder than that and I see no added velocity.

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2015, 10:36:40 PM »

  cut the 777 powder to 100 from 120 cuz it had a wallop.  now it is okay.  still yet to kill anything but there is a day coming when I will meet a deer dumber than yours truly.   mike w

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2015, 11:01:55 PM »

  cut the 777 powder to 100 from 120 cuz it had a wallop.  now it is okay.  still yet to kill anything but there is a day coming when I will meet a deer dumber than yours truly.   mike w

Ditto on that note! Bigger and more mass is not always your friend. Mass and power = pain in some respects. Learn and study what your particular BP rifle wants to shoot accurately and then move forward from there with respect to what you can endure with felt recoil in regards to accuracy and killing power with regards to which animal you are hunting. Anything more is just pain and a self inflicted flinch effect which makes for lost opportunity for making a clean kill. If you are in a target rich environment why blow it with an over powered BP weapon which you can not shoot accurately and confidently?
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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2015, 11:28:53 PM »
Case in point 2013: I tuned five different BP riffles to all shoot accurately using 777 ff powder 80 to 85 grns powder with 300 grn Hornady XTP .458 bullets with the same sabots and RWS musket caps. Each BP rifle could hold three inch groups out to 100 yards all day long and each shooter could comfortably shoot each rifle and each corresponding members rifle with the same accuracy. In addition if one shooter lost or forgot their speedy loaders at camp we all could offer up one speedy loader to the errant shooter. That being said a properly tuned BP rifle will carry you far if you learn the capabilities of the rifle along with your own capabilities for shooting it accurately.
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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2015, 10:23:11 AM »
I think I got issues.....

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2015, 03:27:15 PM »
Yep! I wonder what the bore might look like? It might not have be a total loss...

Keep shooting muzzleloaders - They are a blast!!

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2015, 03:46:55 PM »
One of the worst I have seen.   Salvageable If the bore is in good condition but not to promising based on that pic.

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2015, 03:55:43 PM »
Damn.. it was my grandpas. I just inherited it.

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Re: Pet load for Black diamond xr ?
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2015, 03:59:34 PM »
Take the breech plug out and check the barrel.  Also take the spring and bolt out and see if it needs attention.  Most everything can be fixed or replaced....if the bore is good. 

 


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