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Interesting that they didn't factor in the annual slaughter of deer by their own tribal members and the Yakimas as part of the reason that the population isn't rebounding. They fill the beds of their pickups with deer (and elk), every year until the snow gets too deep on the roads for them to drive their rigs. Too many people have witnessed them doing this for anyone to deny that it doesn't happen. Two-legged predators is the real problem.
Quote from: canyelk48 on May 20, 2014, 05:16:46 PMInteresting that they didn't factor in the annual slaughter of deer by their own tribal members and the Yakimas as part of the reason that the population isn't rebounding. They fill the beds of their pickups with deer (and elk), every year until the snow gets too deep on the roads for them to drive their rigs. Too many people have witnessed them doing this for anyone to deny that it doesn't happen. Two-legged predators is the real problem. It's not Yakama doing the study. If you think the Muckleshoot is slaughtering deer on the east side (yes they have started hunting there) you are kidding yourself. They have very strict regs and mandatory reporting. I wish there was a little recognition when somebody tries to do something right. They have one of the top bios in the West and resources (I.e. hounds) to address some of the issues that are negatives in the overall dynamic of the herd. The Yakama tribe has their own thoughts on management of the wildlife populations. I commend the people trying to change things for the better and who have a focus on the future game populations for all involved.
If you said weren't I would agree but I will whole heartedly disagree with you. I can produce solid facts and numbers, something I haven't seen in opposing arguments.
Ok I will give you that one.
There's a reason why they get a bad rap. When I was younger we used to hunt Wyoming every chance we got. A W. Wa guy that loves to hunt is glued to the window once the rig crests the first pass. Don't get to see a lot of game grazing fields on our side of the rocky top. We'd litterally be lined up on both sides of the motor home, bino's in hand, trying to count points while on the move, especially once we hit MT. We took 90 till Billings, then headed south. As soon as we made that turn, that was the time for a nap. You pass through the Crow res., seems like it took about 2 hrs or so, BIG res compared to ours, and you never saw so much as a squirrel. That is generally good deer/lope country, but we NEVER saw anything once we hit that res. Just saying, I draw conclusions from experience and it wasn't a one time occurrence.
Quote from: Tbar on May 20, 2014, 07:21:19 PMIf you said weren't I would agree but I will whole heartedly disagree with you. I can produce solid facts and numbers, something I haven't seen in opposing arguments. I'm not bashing or telling you that your wrong, but harvest reports are dependant on individuals actually reporting. Historically, the tribes willingness to track harvests have not been stellar. Some of us on here actually live in these units and I will tell you that I see more mucks than I do Yaks. I also have seen in the last two years, a larger number of mucks during the early season (Sept). One thing I will say is at least the Mucks ARE TRYING to do something. More than I can say about Yakama tribe. Our deer get hammered by predators from Jan to Dec, two legged and 4 and we wonder why they aren't multiplying. This is why I choose not to hunt Yakima GMU's anymore.
