Open for discussion Long range (1000 yard) Nail Driver

[Jingles]

I know there are some builders out there so looking of info on what manufacturer and caliber would be best to use as a start for building a LONG range nail driver.
Thinking a Winchester in 308.

[carpsniperg2]

I got this moved over for ya. I would talk to travis at RBROS if you want one built. If you are wanted to build one yourself the 700 actions are a good choice.

[Jingles]

Thanks for the move.
Would like to build myself but not sure of my capabilities to produce what I want as mentioned I want a tack driver at LONG ranges

[Biggerhammer]

Choose your bullet diameter, choose the case to push it that fits your velocity needs and pick a smith. There are a bunch of good smiths out there. Benchmark in Arlington has built me some real performers.

[Jim the Plumber]

Look at the 6.5's For long range on a short action.
 RBros is the premiere builder for custom rifles.

[yorketransport]

I love this game! Even more when it's somebody else's money.

This is my checklist, in order:
1)Hunting or plinking
2)Muzzle brake or no muzzle brake
3)Single shot or repeater
4)Long or short action
5)Weight
6)Standard or wildcat caliber

This just gets me to a limited list of calibers. Then comes the actual rifle. You may find out that you can buy a gun that meets most of your requirements. If a guy wants to just buy a gun that's 90% ready to go out to 1000 yard, I'm a big fan of the 6.5x284 in some of the Savage factory offerings.

The 308 will leave you struggling to keep up with some of the smaller bore calibers when working off of a short action. A 260 Rem or 6.5 Creedmoor will offer better performance out at extended ranges without increasing shooting cost or recoil.

If you want something over the top, the 338 SnipeTac is a great round!
Andrew

[longrangekiller]

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[b23]

As someone already mentioned, for a factory bought rifle one of the Savage target models in 6.5x284 offers a lot of bang for your buck and are very accurate right out of the box.  They sell a F-class target model and a benchrest target model, both can be had in 6.5-284.  You used to be able to pick either one up for around $1000-$1200 but I have no idea what that sell for now I just know they shoot extremely well and cost a lot less a lot less than a full custom or semi-custom built rifle.

Also, since you mentioned wanting to build something on your own, you won't find an easier action to build off of, for the due it yourselfer, than a Savage.  With their actions, you can order a barrel already chambered and ready to install and with a simple go, no go gauge, you can install the barrel yourself without having to use a lathe.  You'll need a action wrench and barrel vise if you don't already have them.

[Pathfinder101]

PathfinderJR has been kicking around the idea of buying a Howa for the same purpose stated here (1,000 yard rifle).  He liked the short barreled (20") .308
Anyone have any experience with them?  How are the action/barrel/triggers on those things?

[RadSav]

PathfinderJR has been kicking around the idea of buying a Howa for the same purpose stated here (1,000 yard rifle).  He liked the short barreled (20") .308
Anyone have any experience with them?  How are the action/barrel/triggers on those things?

The Howa guns are probably capable of shooting 1,000 yards ok.  Not sure the 308 from a 20" barrel is going to produce what I would call "nail driver" accuracy at that distance.  I would think it should be an outstanding 600 yard gun for PFjr.  Back when I shot on a rifle team it seemed the 308, even with the long barreled rifles with high BC bullets, started dancing around at the 900 yard mark.  Figured that was the subsonic point or dang close to it.  Of course that was back in the early eighties and maybe new powders and bullets have changed that    Even if it's not a nail driver at 1,000 it should still be a hoot load of fun!

[Pathfinder101]

PathfinderJR has been kicking around the idea of buying a Howa for the same purpose stated here (1,000 yard rifle).  He liked the short barreled (20") .308
Anyone have any experience with them?  How are the action/barrel/triggers on those things?

The Howa guns are probably capable of shooting 1,000 yards ok.  Not sure the 308 from a 20" barrel is going to produce what I would call "nail driver" accuracy at that distance.  I would think it should be an outstanding 600 yard gun for PFjr.  Back when I shot on a rifle team it seemed the 308, even with the long barreled rifles with high BC bullets, started dancing around at the 900 yard mark.  Figured that was the subsonic point or dang close to it.  Of course that was back in the early eighties and maybe new powders and bullets have changed that    Even if it's not a nail driver at 1,000 it should still be a hoot load of fun!

Thanks Rad.  The Howa models that he was looking at only come in a few calibers, and .308 is the only caliber that would be legal for hunting big game.  He already has a .308 (a Marlin XL7) that he can whack steel out to 600 yards (past 600 he has to guess because that's where his scope runs out of hash marks).  He liked the Howa because it has a bull barrel, a Houge stock and a match trigger (the HACT).  I think the idea behind the 20" barrel is that you don't run out of powder burn before your bullet exits the muzzle and the short barrel will flex less. 

[RadSav]

We have a local guy that has the varmint sporter.  I think it's the Talon as it's got the Axiom style stock.  He's been busting dogs at some insane distances.  Seems to be a better shooter than the price would suggest.

My knowledge base is rather dated.  So I would think you would want to ask Jimtheplumber or someone of that standing before taking too much of my word for it.  I haven't shot much past 600 yards in nearly 30 years.  I expect a lot has changed since then.

[YellowDog]

I picked up two savage rifles off of this site over the past couple of years with the intent to build them on my own. One is a short action with accutrigger and low end combo scope that I got with an extra barrel and a barrel wrench for $325. The other is a long action non-accutrigger and no scope I paid $250 for. I have a light varmint contour barrel in 260 Remington Match on order from Criterion ($320), a Hogue full length pillar stock ($190), and need to order a timney trigger for the long action. I will probably put a brake.on it just so I can see the bullet impacts. I plan on putting a higher end Vortex scope on it with lightweight Talley rings.

If the Criterion barrel works out I will probably buy another in 284 Winchester for the short action and do a similar build.

I thought about having Benchmark build me a custom but I decided I could build two for the price of one and I didn't really need a full custom...I'd rather have two semi custom budget builds I worked on than one full custom that is more accurate than I can shoot anyway

[Biggerhammer]

I would shoot a .243 Win with the heavies and a proper twist any day at distance before I would even take a side ways glance at a .308 Win for the task.

[Special T]

I like Yorks way of breaking this down... If I were goingt to do it it would be Hunting, Repeater, Brake, Standard caliber, Weight light as possible so no bull barrels and such.

If you were going to go hunting round 1k yrds why has no one mention 300win mag?