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Pianoman I agree that there are a lot of hard core "no gun" advocates out there, but I believe there are a lot more moderates who would like to come up with some solution short of total bans that would keep guns out of the hands of hard core criminals. I think all of us would, but for the life of me, I honestly don't know of any law that would do that. Somehow we have to come up with legislation that would appeal to that large segment of moderates who don't want a total ban, but might go that way if given no alternative. Personally I kind of go with legislation that requires very long term sentences for anyone committing a crime with a gun. The only way I see to keep guns out of the hands of some is to keep them in prison. In the mean time, the real test is how do we keep from being backed into an all or nothing battle over gun control. That's kind of what's happened with I 594 and I think we all are pretty sure what the results of that are going to be. Geeze, I'm beginning to hear more comments about amending the 2nd amendment and as far fetched as that might seem, nothing surprises me anymore. We're just preaching to the choir on this forum, it's those moderates out there who are actually willing to listen that we need to get to and work with.
Quote from: baldopepper on August 28, 2014, 02:20:26 PMPianoman I agree that there are a lot of hard core "no gun" advocates out there, but I believe there are a lot more moderates who would like to come up with some solution short of total bans that would keep guns out of the hands of hard core criminals. I think all of us would, but for the life of me, I honestly don't know of any law that would do that. Somehow we have to come up with legislation that would appeal to that large segment of moderates who don't want a total ban, but might go that way if given no alternative. Personally I kind of go with legislation that requires very long term sentences for anyone committing a crime with a gun. The only way I see to keep guns out of the hands of some is to keep them in prison. In the mean time, the real test is how do we keep from being backed into an all or nothing battle over gun control. That's kind of what's happened with I 594 and I think we all are pretty sure what the results of that are going to be. Geeze, I'm beginning to hear more comments about amending the 2nd amendment and as far fetched as that might seem, nothing surprises me anymore. We're just preaching to the choir on this forum, it's those moderates out there who are actually willing to listen that we need to get to and work with.Without somehow magically getting rid of all 300 million guns in this country, you'll never get guns out of the hands of hardcore criminals, ever. Stiffer penalties will deter the less career criminals and keep bad guys put away longer. That's the best solution to gun crime. Hit them where it hurts. But hardcore criminals don't care about laws, ever, ever, ever. That's why they're called criminals. And they dance with glee every time a new law is passed restricting gun ownership because they know that means fewer armed law-abiding citizens. They still have the black market and still have access to guns. We just have fewer options. It's mind-blowingly screwed up to believe that a law, any law, will stop a hardcore criminal from doing exactly what they want. The best we can hope for is to stop them and put them away or kill them. That's it.
I think the only way to change so called "Moderates" is to educate them. They suffer from the do something disease and need to be put on the correct track instead of the wrong one.
(g) A person who (i) acquired a firearm other than a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the firearm or (ii) acquired a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the pistol within the preceding sixty days. At the end of the sixty-day period, the person must either have lawfully transferred the pistol or must have contacted the department of licensing to notify the department that he or she has possession of the pistol and intends to retain possession of the pistol, in compliance with all federal and state laws.
what is this part about. is there a requirement to have pistols licensed in this state?Quote(g) A person who (i) acquired a firearm other than a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the firearm or (ii) acquired a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the pistol within the preceding sixty days. At the end of the sixty-day period, the person must either have lawfully transferred the pistol or must have contacted the department of licensing to notify the department that he or she has possession of the pistol and intends to retain possession of the pistol, in compliance with all federal and state laws.