hey trophyhunt that's great news the tree stand deal,ive allways believed in the pursuit of covering land, now that im 56 the body just wants to sit and watch the woods go buy,but I don't,but this year I will be doing just that you gave me a good inscentive to try it,ANY WAY ,as far as the first time elk hunter goes never give up if your in the woods after elk allways persue were you want to be and when your tired star over,relentless persuit best of luck,