Favorite pro shop in Seattle?

[cspyder29.5]

Brought 2 old bows from ebay to  The Nock Point, shopkeep told me that I needed a rubber band peep and that the old style was useless. 1 week later the rubber band broke and peep was really useless.

went up north to try Riverside, didn't paper tune the bows bought there. Peeps weren't installed custom fit to us. Called in to ask price of a Hoyt Ultra Rest, was told they sold at MAP (minimum ad price) does that even really exist? Called around and Nock Point had it for 40 bucks cheaper.

Seems like finding a reputable/reliable/honest shop that doest good work is hard to find in these parts. 

What's your guys' favorite shop?

[hogslayer]

The only shop i have been to is Nock Point.  Some people think the owner is rude, but the people that work there are a bunch of old construction workers/hunters.  They have taken a lot of time to help me out on my bows, along with shooting techniques.  Granted they are a busy shop so sometimes you have to wait you turn.

[Special T]

Are you new to archery? If so welcome to the sport!

You apparently didn't have a good experience at 2 well respected shops. If you don't know how to work on your own bow then its going to cost you one way or the other. Ive price shopped archery stuff on the internet and found that it is indeed cheaper. Once you need the help of a PRO SHOP to do some work for you your usually back to the cost of new. The pro shop doesnt normally charge you to set up the gear they just sold ya.

If you really want to get into archery Join a club and shoot as often as you can.
Good luck

[_TONY_]

Never had any problems at the nock point...

[irishevox]

i know not seatlle but cabelas did do a stand up job on all the stuff i ever ask for

[RadSav]

went up north to try Riverside, didn't paper tune the bows bought there. Peeps weren't installed custom fit to us. Called in to ask price of a Hoyt Ultra Rest, was told they sold at MAP (minimum ad price) does that even really exist? Called around and Nock Point had it for 40 bucks cheaper.

MAP stands for "Manufacturers Advertised Price"  Most shops will be very close to that number on accessories.  Of course some shops like to give stuff away and other shops occasionally get a "special buy" and pass that savings on to their customer.  I actually like shops to make a buck or two.  Usually means they can afford to keep better help and they stay in business longer!

I do not know any shop that will automatically paper tune a bow.  Most will assist you if you ask.  Even though I find paper tuning to be the absolute worst way of setting/tuning a bow up there is!  Usually need to ask about peep fitting too.  Not sure I have ever heard of either of these shop being unwilling to assist their customers if you simply ask for help.

As far as a shop suggesting a tubing style peep.  They have a purpose and usually work very well.  I can use what ever peep sight I want.  I make them all!  And about 50% of the time that peep includes tubing!  Can't think of a time where I broke the tubing on a hunt.  Although I've often taken a tubing peep and simply cut the tubing post off.  Doesn't make it "useless", just makes it the exact same as a non-tubing peep.

[cspyder29.5]

Sorry forgot to mention, the old bows we brought in to Nock Point were at their disposal, i.e. we told them to fix it up with w/e we needed no matter the cost. Later on that week my rubber band broke at Kenmore and Jim told me it was very common. The bow strings were tied incorrectly, and had no severing between the bus cable, not sure what its called but it was way different than the one that comes from factory. It was like two cables joined together like a chain link, not served together, which is why my peep was rotating. If they had told us to change out the strings I would have agreed as long as we had a long term solution and not a bandaid fix. There was no way to rotate the peep at full draw to a correct angle because we had no bow press for adding twists. Either way twists should have been implemented or new strings ordered, and while I don't mind the band breaking in my face, I did mind the fact that I trusted them to fix my bow to operate properly.

Another thing they did was push cheap accessories that we would have to replace in the future not giving us options, because they didn't have any other options, though they had a nice selection of target sights. Examples would be fuse sights, and whisker biscuits.

As for the peep alignment pre installed at Riverside apparently the guy is so good he got it right on the first try. impressed. My bow works perfectly, and I would say they are probably my favorite between the two, though I am not sure about the whole MAP thing. Just bought a hogg father and tested it today with impressive results for my 5th time shooting. Able to get around a 7-8 group at 80 at the end of the day   

Thanks for the explanation RadSav, I prefer to pay a bit extra to help out local businesses, but if they try to trick me I get ticked. I'd rather just have them tell me it is X price, we have to charge a bit extra to keep revenues/honest reason. No problem with that. I'd actually spring for the shop that helps me the most/more efficient/skillful but charges me a good amount more on items. Just the whole explanation given to me was a little dishonest from what he told me it was Min Ad Price not Manufacturers.

[RadSav]

As for the peep alignment pre installed at Riverside apparently the guy is so good he got it right on the first try. impressed. My bow works perfectly, and I would say they are probably my favorite between the two, though I am not sure about the whole MAP thing.

I tend to think the same myself.  Though there is something to be said for Nock Points convenience of location for many folks.  Bill is a good honest man of whom I like very much.  If you keep on them and ask nicely they will make it right.  Just in my experience Riverside more often than not gets it right the first time.

It sounds to me as though the "cables joined together like a chain link" means the bows had floating yokes.  That used to be standard issue on Hoyt bows.  I actually prefer that type of yoke on my hunting bows unless the cable guard is a flex guard or similar.  They are a PITA to make, but performance should have been just fine that way.  Every Bear bow I shoot has floating yokes that I personally make that way.  It's a very forgiving setup!  I think you would see a lot more floating yokes out there if they were easier and cheaper to make.

BTW - 7-8" groups at 80 yards is impressive for your 5th time shooting.  I have days when that seems impossible and I've been doing this since the early 80's.  Sounds like you are about ready to get your bow all bloody and beautiful!  Good luck 

[cspyder29.5]

Yup Nock Point is most convenient though it seems like its geared more towards family friendly than anything serious. Floating yoke seems interesting, I'll have to look it up. Saw a bow today with a ring as a yoke/sever? I think it was a mission? Some interesting stuff, just started so I'm learning and take a lot of things face value, so I may be wrong about various things. Thanks for all the helpful advice/knowledge on tuning/standard protocol!

Right now I really want that guy with the mission bow's lens scope thingy lol.

[RadSav]

The idea behind the floating yoke, Mathews/Mission considered in that group, is that they self adjust.  So even if the cable creeps a little they will always spread pressure evenly to both sides of the limb.

Lenses in the scope are sweet for many things.  But just as an FYI, you should be aware that lenses are illegal to hunt with in the state of Washington.  I think they are now illegal in Oregon too.  I've never researched enough to know if Idaho is the same so maybe someone can chime in and clarify that   I have hunted Texas with lenses and it's not really an advantage anyway.  Though they sure do add some consistency in target shooting!

[Malardman]

New company, working out of there garage, two very respected archery people, Hope on the Horizon, very very good setting up and tuning, everything anybody could ask for, teach proper technique, bow repair, paper tuning, do your arrows etc. worth a call
Rebecca or Carter @ 4255638342 or 4252186035
Matter of fact she just won the 3d shoot at Granite with her new Obsession!

[bowjunkie]

nock point has really been the palce for me and my friends a little rough around the edges but will really help you out when you need it. 

[cspyder29.5]

What did Hope on the Horizon do for your bow? Just called them sound pretty courteous

[D-Rock425]

Rebecca and Carter are both top notch people.   I see them a out at granite shooting almost every week.  Right now I think they are a obsession dealer.

[Johnb317]

So they're setting up a shop?  Notice the 425 prefix... but is that Bellevue, Redmond, Granite falls?
I currently use the knockpoint,  I like Bill, and he will go the extra mile, at the same time it would be nice to have more options other than Outdoor Emporium, VanWinkles (are they even still in business) , and Riverside is an hour drive.

[D-Rock425]

Yes van winkles is still in business.

[dr.derek]

nock point always tells me the rubber bands are the way to go but i love the reliability of the a non rubber band

[Goldy79]

Nock Point is where I bought my bow and they've serviced it every year free of charge. Recently got a new string and they charged me 20% less than any other shop around. The owner is a little cranky but so am I for that matter, especially if I'm a hunter working on everyone else's bow's during prime time for scouting.

[cspyder29.5]

Do you happen to know what kind of strings they used for the replacement?

[barracuda163]

Fletch setter in rainier wa. Is the only place I'll go for anything. No range, but don't waste your time at the big box store.

[northwesthunter84]

I'm on the peninsula and I still make the trip up to Riverside Archery.  It's two hours for me, but I find it completely worth it for work on my Mathews.  Everyone is correct if you need help and they are not super swamped those guys will go out of their way to help.  I grew up with a pro shop a 3 min bicycle ride away, it was family run and when it comes down to it, if they do good work I will choose that over anything else.  The only archery gear that I buy from box stores is broadheads and arrows.  I am going to start doing my own setups so soon it will be bare shafts only.

[Goldy79]

I don't. It was a pre-stretched string and I'm more than happy with it. Shot about 100 arrows this weekend and they are flying flat and fast. No problem with the string at all.

Do you happen to know what kind of strings they used for the replacement?