How Many want "master Hunters" Out of North Bend, Snoq

[bustbigking]

Homeowners and General season Hunters are becoming more and more annoyed with the "Master Hunters". They are also making the elk hunting in near by areas horrible. In areas once littered with elk sign now not a single track. The "Master Hunters" are driving the elk out of public land areas and some private areas now and forcing them to go to where  "Master Hunters" and only "Master Hunters" are allowed to hunt. It is also getting out of hand in many other areas in the state. Acting as a "Gang" the "Master Hunters" chase the elk almost all year round and make the general season public land hunts a joke! Lets put an end to this!!!

[CP]

There is no reason to have master hunters on public land. 

[Crunchy]

Being a current MH none of those sound like good options.  Like to think a good portion of the hunting is on private lands.

[Odell]

how can a random group of people who don't know each other coordinate an effort to drive the elk out of public and private areas and onto other areas only they can hunt? That sounds impossible.

Animals respond to pressure, but these elk are being pressured into another area of pressure???

Also I think part of the goal in those areas is to have the elk leave or disperse. Or at least some of them. So if MH hunts are forcing elk out of the area I think the state would consider that a success.

[bustbigking]

Odell, the "master hunters" all know each other. They call each other and also call landowners and game dept to find exactly where the elk are. When the "master hunters" first started hunting together with the game department and local land owners they where told all the local hot spots we locals hunt during the general season elk. They hunted these areas pre general season and scared every elk out of those area! For the last four years the elk have become more and more dependent on meadowbrook as home. It has reached the point where the elk numbers in all surrounding areas are less and the only spot they are moving to is meadowbrook and snoq city limits where hunting is illegal unless your a "master hunter" that have special privileges. It's not doing anyone good except the "master hunters"

[Bob33]

Master Hunters as a "gang" do not have special hunting privileges in the North Bend area. There were 25 permits issued last year. Only Master Hunters with that special permit may have hunted. Not all did. There is no general season for Master Hunters in that area.

If you believe that amount of hunting "scared every elk out of those area!", then I suspect no amount of factual data would change your mind.

[woodswalker]

Wow Bustbigking...  Is the tinfoil on a bit tight this AM?

I think that Bob33 nailed it...no amount of factual data would change your mind

A MH in these units get’s assigned to a private landowner only after a complaint is made.  After that they only can deal with the elk on the private property they are assigned to.  There are no designated MHE hunts on public land in this unit.

[Odell]

Odell, the "master hunters" all know each other. They call each other and also call landowners and game dept to find exactly where the elk are. When the "master hunters" first started hunting together with the game department and local land owners they where told all the local hot spots we locals hunt during the general season elk. They hunted these areas pre general season and scared every elk out of those area! For the last four years the elk have become more and more dependent on meadowbrook as home. It has reached the point where the elk numbers in all surrounding areas are less and the only spot they are moving to is meadowbrook and snoq city limits where hunting is illegal unless your a "master hunter" that have special privileges. It's not doing anyone good except the "master hunters"

I got my MH permit 2-3 years ago. I've never had a single phone call from anyone, and never experienced any of what you are talking about. I haven't hunted your area either so I can't say whats happening or not. If it's that bad, just go get a MH permit. Its pretty easy to get, although has very few benefits.

[h20hunter]

Bust...

You seem to feel very strongly about this. Do you have a personal experience that has led you to this? You are putting some pretty heavy accusations that suggest a fantasy type of scheming and colluding.

[CP]

Your accusations don’t add up.  Master hunters are usually assigned a hunt area and time by a hunt coordinator.  They don’t run a muck all year round and they don’t run elk out of public land.  Just the opposite, they try to move the elk off of private land.

[jackelope]

What public land in North Bend have the master hunters run all the elk out of?
My gut tells me that bustbigking isn't clear on how the MH program works.

[stevemiller]

I cant say that I know all the ins and outs of the MH program or this area in question but friends of mine who are MH's have told me that they do try to herd elk into and out of certain areas.Is this what you are refurring to BUST?

[bustbigking]

I'm not the only one who is fed up with this. I don't know if you noticed but one of the issues up for change for 2015 is "master hunters" making local landowners mad because they are constantly chasing the elk off public land and onto private land then asking permition to hunt. And Bob I'm not just piping off random things I know nothing about. I know many landowners fed up with the "master hunters" and I know how many permits are issued, who is hunting with those permits, where they are hunting, what season they hunt, what landowners they have permition from, and when they kill elk. It's not hard to hear muzzle loader shots pre season on the golf course or polo club. I'm not grumpy at all this morning I'm actually vary happy. Just pissed that the "master hunters" are making hunting in once great elk areas now vary vary difficult and on the verge of illegal! Sorry if I ruffle your feathers.... "Master hunters" are starting ruffle the whole flock!!

[h20hunter]

So you are suggesting that master hunters are herding/pushing the animals ONTO private land in order to then get the call to come shoot 'em?

Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense.

By the way....I can't vote in your poll. You need to add options for what others may think...such as leave it alone.

[hntrspud]

I'm not the only one who is fed up with this. I don't know if you noticed but one of the issues up for change for 2015 is "master hunters" making local landowners mad because they are constantly chasing the elk off public land and onto private land then asking permition to hunt. And Bob I'm not just piping off random things I know nothing about. I know many landowners fed up with the "master hunters" and I know how many permits are issued, who is hunting with those permits, where they are hunting, what season they hunt, what landowners they have permition from, and when they kill elk. It's not hard to hear muzzle loader shots pre season on the golf course or polo club. I'm not grumpy at all this morning I'm actually vary happy. Just pissed that the "master hunters" are making hunting in once great elk areas now vary vary difficult and on the verge of illegal! Sorry if I ruffle your feathers.... "Master hunters" are starting ruffle the whole flock!!

Who is this whole flock that you refer to? I am not a master hunter and just harvested an elk out of 460. Public. I dont know where you are coming up with these "facts". Are you upset because you see so many elk and want to hunt wherever? Are you a member of the local Elk group, and if so, have you brought it up in meetings? I for one have not seen anyone at any of our meetings that sais anything of the like. Master hunters arent pushing the elk where others cannot hunt. You may want to explore some other areas, put in some time and find the elk that are there. Talk to landowners yourself. Beat them at there own "game". We have a meeting tonight if you wish to voice your opinion there. If it really does ruffle some feathers, then I will see you tonight. Otherwise, your just complaining.