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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 02:06:27 PM »
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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 02:18:21 PM »
BS-If you are going to accuse someone or a tribe, lets hear who the tribes are and who your source is.  I hate second hand information without supporting evidence posted on these threads. 


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Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 02:22:04 PM »
Tribal hunting is just about the #1 issue affecting deer and elk hunting in this state, in my opinion. And the state doesn't seem to care. The tribes are allowed to kill as much as they want, whenever they want. They are even given gate keys so they can drive into areas where everyone else has to walk, as if driving to the tops of mountains is some sort of cultural tradition for them that the white man can't take away.
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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2014, 02:26:45 PM »
BS-If you are going to accuse someone or a tribe, lets hear who the tribes are and who your source is.  I hate second hand information without supporting evidence posted on these threads.

I wouldn't be calling B.S. just yet.  He said he would get the guys info in a PM if he could.   Don't be so quick to try and call people out.

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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 02:27:18 PM »
I believe it, look what the yakama tribal member does by himself! You know the guy I'm talking about, if not, you will come this winter.
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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 02:31:23 PM »
BS-If you are going to accuse someone or a tribe, lets hear who the tribes are and who your source is.  I hate second hand information without supporting evidence posted on these threads.

I wouldn't be calling B.S. just yet.  He said he would get the guys info in a PM if he could.   Don't be so quick to try and call people out.

I will be as quick to call someone out as they are to post something without evidence. 

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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 02:31:58 PM »
Here is a fact! While helping Coach with his raffle tag over three weeks I have seen 6 deer!  With the miles we have covered I can assure you the deer population is getting punished, and hard! Be it indians, cats, wolves, coyotes or poaching.. 

Im not gonna bash any race, but something has to be done.. By all humans or we are screwed!!!

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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 02:33:46 PM »
Here is a fact! While helping Coach with his raffle tag over three weeks I have seen 6 deer!  With the miles we have covered I can assure you the deer population is getting punished, and hard! Be it indians, cats, wolves, coyotes or poaching.. 

Im not gonna bash any race, but something has to be done.. By all humans or we are screwed!!!

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I agree, as with most species in decline there are multiple factors usually at play.  Some factors factor in more heavily than others depending on the species and the geographic area.

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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 02:37:37 PM »
Tribal hunting is just about the #1 issue affecting deer and elk hunting in this state, in my opinion. And the state doesn't seem to care. The tribes are allowed to kill as much as they want, whenever they want. They are even given gate keys so they can drive into areas where everyone else has to walk, as if driving to the tops of mountains is some sort of cultural tradition for them that the white man can't take away.

I disagree as a whole.  While tribes might be a major factor in a specific area.  Maybe your pet area of focus, it is not a major issue or issue at all everywhere.  Bobcat, you have been painting the tribes with a pretty broad paintbrush since I joined this forum.  When you refer to tribes from now on, it would be helpful to everyone if you referred to the specific tribes your are speaking of. 

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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2014, 02:42:44 PM »
Tribal hunting is just about the #1 issue affecting deer and elk hunting in this state, in my opinion. And the state doesn't seem to care. The tribes are allowed to kill as much as they want, whenever they want. They are even given gate keys so they can drive into areas where everyone else has to walk, as if driving to the tops of mountains is some sort of cultural tradition for them that the white man can't take away.

I disagree as a whole.  While tribes might be a major factor in a specific area.  Maybe your pet area of focus, it is not a major issue or issue at all everywhere.  Bobcat, you have been painting the tribes with a pretty broad paintbrush since I joined this forum.  When you refer to tribes from now on, it would be helpful to everyone if you referred to the specific tribes your are speaking of.

Care to back that up with some facts??  Or do you need to be called out as well?

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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2014, 02:44:10 PM »
Sure, it's specific areas. Look at the Yakima area: worst deer populations in the state. The WDFW blames hair loss caused by lice. But to me it's obvious- Those deer get killed year around by a tribe that has no closed season and no limits. The same thing could be happening in the area described by the original post in this thread.

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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2014, 02:47:39 PM »
Tribal hunting is just about the #1 issue affecting deer and elk hunting in this state, in my opinion. And the state doesn't seem to care. The tribes are allowed to kill as much as they want, whenever they want. They are even given gate keys so they can drive into areas where everyone else has to walk, as if driving to the tops of mountains is some sort of cultural tradition for them that the white man can't take away.
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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2014, 02:47:53 PM »
Tribal hunting is just about the #1 issue affecting deer and elk hunting in this state, in my opinion. And the state doesn't seem to care. The tribes are allowed to kill as much as they want, whenever they want. They are even given gate keys so they can drive into areas where everyone else has to walk, as if driving to the tops of mountains is some sort of cultural tradition for them that the white man can't take away.

I disagree as a whole.  While tribes might be a major factor in a specific area.  Maybe your pet area of focus, it is not a major issue or issue at all everywhere.  Bobcat, you have been painting the tribes with a pretty broad paintbrush since I joined this forum.  When you refer to tribes from now on, it would be helpful to everyone if you referred to the specific tribes your are speaking of.

Care to back that up with some facts??  Or do you need to be called out as well?


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Re: Natives killing deer in wintering grounds.
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2014, 02:48:42 PM »


I have to agree with bobcat. We would have some of the best hunting in the state if truckloads werent being hauled out daily

 


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