Got fired!

[huntingaddiction]

No I wish...bigger than that

[Old Man Yager]

I know of at least 3 people at my work, not going to name names though!! Sorry you got burned on this.

[lamrith]

No worries huntingaddiction, some of my points where not response to you, just clarifying some misconceptions on carry laws I saw.

You did not break any law, but you don't have to break a law to be terminated.  Our place has no gun rule, but everyone knows half the employees have them out in cars, but everyone respects rules in the building.  Thankfully our mgmt uses common sense.

[runningboard]

How many of you are reading this right now at work and have a firearm in your vehicle?

I have 3 in mine right now.

me too!

[Fl0und3rz]

Sorry you lost your job and firearm.

Practically speaking, spend your time and money on finding a new job.   

Then get a safe for your vehicle if you will continue to lock a firearm in a vehicle.

[Sandberm]

My wife got fired for demanding that her boss buy her a desk and chair that would not hurt her neck and back and that would help her be more organized. He admited that shes an excellent employee but he just couldnt handle her standing up to him. She laughed at him when he told her this and went "Alrighty then".

Dont worry about us, farmings good and we didnt need her paycheck...though it was a nice addition.

Oh, and we she got fired...i got to keep my shotgun and bow.

[ballpark]

Oh wait, I found my gun at home.   It wasn't in my truck after all. 

[csaaphill]

OK I know this is going to sound crazy but my luck has been the worst today.  I was working a late night shift at my company.  I walked out to find my truck broken into(window smashed) and my concealed weapon gone.  When I got into work this afternoon they fired me for having a firearm on company property.  Saying that because it was in my locked vehicle out of sight does not make it a concealed weapon.  Legally it does.  I had initialed a document saying I understood firearms were not allowed on the premises including the parking lot.  However, wouldn't my truck be my private property?  Advice?

You initialed that you knew it was against policy to have a firearm in their parking lot.

 If your firearm was stolen from your truck while it was in their parking lot there is not a lot you can do. You knowingly violated company policy in an "at will" state....Double whammy.

I kind of agree with this.  However there are no signs in the parking lot.  My truck is legally my property no matter where it is parked.

However, your property was parked on their property, therefore fell under their rules. Signs do not matter, assuming it is part of your employee handbook that indicates firearms are not allowed on company grounds.

leave it to a fri****g liberal 

[csaaphill]

This is exaclty what our forefathers were warning against pitting our right to own and keep firearms for our own security against a private company's property Rights.  The right thing according to how the second amendment is not to be infringed upon would be for the Company to pound sand and to not have those kinds of things that make people sign away their rights just to have a job. :bash:x1,000,000 time squared and more if needed.
Liberals just love this kind of thing too, for they know ahead of time that this puts us at risk too. For you have to sign these bleeping papers but if you don't do as they say and even you would have stopped an active shooter you'd still be fired.
Mass infringment regardless.
WHy because were to be able to move about and not have to worry about losing our job just because some company has some  policy against owning and bringing a concealed weapon in your truck for your or others self protection company in truth should not have a right to say this at all for it infringes on our second amendment rights.
Yes with the modern status quoe crap tey might but with all our forefathers warned us against and told us about NO!
SOrry to hear this sue em if you can get a good Second amendment lawyer and sue them.
Too  bad most say to just move on for all that does is allow these kinds of infringements to hold and make it harder for those of us who don't compromise to stand up later.
BTW Shall not be infringed also means private sectore not just Gov Regualtion!

[Fl0und3rz]

BTW Shall not be infringed also means private sectore not just Gov Regualtion!

You may wish this to be the case, and I might share your sentiment.  But as a statement of how jurisprudence has sorted out the balance of private property rights versus other rights, including the Second Amendment, this clearly is not the case.

You probably owe XD2005 an apology for correctly stating what is, rather than stating what you assumed he would like it to be.

 

[csaaphill]

BTW Shall not be infringed also means private sectore not just Gov Regualtion!

You may wish this to be the case, and I might share your sentiment.  But as a statement of how jurisprudence has sorted out the balance of private property rights versus other rights, including the Second Amendment, this clearly is not the case.

You probably owe XD2005 an apology for correctly stating what is, rather than stating what you assumed he would like it to be.

 

He's stated I beleive as mags has he's a liberal unless getting his Icon mixed up with another that has a similar one.
And I did say that it is the modern trend and the law usually sides with that. But if you connect the dots the way I did it isn't right even if it's the one that wins or upheld.

[csaaphill]

BTW Shall not be infringed also means private sectore not just Gov Regualtion!

You may wish this to be the case, and I might share your sentiment.  But as a statement of how jurisprudence has sorted out the balance of private property rights versus other rights, including the Second Amendment, this clearly is not the case.

You probably owe XD2005 an apology for correctly stating what is, rather than stating what you assumed he would like it to be.

 

Liberals will usually side like that against this guys right to self defence no matter what a law or company would say that is why I said that.

[xd2005]

I'm the one of which you are thinking. You're wrong, but I'm the one.

I believe in private property rights. I also believe that business owners also retain those rights. You can disagree, that's fine, I think it's a stretch to call that a liberal ideal, however.

[csaaphill]

BTW Shall not be infringed also means private sectore not just Gov Regualtion!

You may wish this to be the case, and I might share your sentiment.  But as a statement of how jurisprudence has sorted out the balance of private property rights versus other rights, including the Second Amendment, this clearly is not the case.

You probably owe XD2005 an apology for correctly stating what is, rather than stating what you assumed he would like it to be.

 

Your right he did say what is and not what he wants it to be but no I will only appoligise if he's not one. (a liberal that is)
I never assumed anything I know that's a true statement for I've ran into those kind of things too where you have to sign crap and if you don't you dont get the job. SO no I didn't assume nothing I knew what he meant.

[csaaphill]

I'm the one of which you are thinking. You're wrong, but I'm the one.

I believe in private property rights. I also believe that business owners also retain those rights. You can disagree, that's fine, I think it's a stretch to call that a liberal ideal, however.

your not a liberal then?