"Spike only" question

[Rob]

Just wondering, when did Washington State start the "spike only" restrictions for the general Elk tag?

[kukusya]

Spike

[HunterStrait]

Spike

wait, its legal to shoot a spike bull with eye guards?!

[Rob]

Sorry, my question might have been worded poorly.  I know what a spike is...  Looking to know what year WDFW started limiting the general season to Spike only in most of the Eastern Wa GMU's.

[kukusya]

Yes if they less that 1 inch long.

[Rob]

For Elk....

[Blacktail Sniper]

For Elk....

Yes, copied from the reg book, page 45:

Definitions:
3 Point Minimum: A 3 Pt Min elk means that
a legal elk in these GMUs must have at least 3 antler points on one side, with at least 2 antler points above the ear Eye guards are antler points when they are at least one inch long A 1x3 and a 2x3 are legal elk in a 3 Pt Min unit Antler restrictions apply to all hunters during any open season

Antler Points: To qualify as a point, an antler point must be at least one-inch in length, measured on the longest side

Any Bull Elk Seasons: Open only to the taking of elk with visible antlers (bull calves are illegal)

Any Elk: Any elk may be taken Referred to as "Either Sex" in the past
Branch: A branch is defined as any projection off the main antler beam that is at least one inch long, measured on the longest side, and longer than it is wide

Spike Bull Restrictions: Elk taken in these game management units (GMUs) must have at least one antler with no branches originating more than four (4) inches above where the antler attaches to the skull An animal with a spike on one side (1x2) is legal in spike only units An animal with more than one antler point more than four inches above where the antler attaches to the skull on both sides (2x2) is illegal

True Spike Bull Restrictions: Bull elk taken in these units (GMUs 251, 328-335) must have both antlers with no branching originating more than four inches above where the antlers attach to the skull Under the true spike restriction, taking an elk that has two points on one side or antler points within one inch of the definitions regarding length of point, or point of origination, is an infraction All other types of violations of the true spike restriction are subject to current penalties and assessments

Visible Antler: A horn-like growth projecting above the hairline

[Rob]

Sorry, still not getting my question across.  I understand the regulations...

Wondering what year, they started putting the spike only regulation into effect for Elk in Washington... 

[Hunterman]

The OP is asking "WHEN DID THE STATE GO TO SPIKE ONLY IN EASTERN WASHINGTON?" Not the internet lawyer definition on what a spike is.

It has been a few years now for spike only. Just be careful what kind of spike area your hunting in.

Hunterman(Tony)

[Pinetar]

I believe it was in 1994

[hughjorgan]

Sorry, still not getting my question across.  I understand the regulations...

Wondering what year, they started putting the spike only regulation into effect for Elk in Washington...

I think it was around 1994 in central washington....

[Blacktail Sniper]

Yes, I get that he was asking for the year, but if you read the two posts before that,

Yes if they less that 1 inch long.

It appeared as if he was questioning this as well,

For Elk....

Sorry if my reply ruffled any feathers or put some panties into a bunch, as I said, it looked like he had an additional question...

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

1994 ish??

[Rob]

Cool, thanks everyone!

Not ruffled, just trying to make sure my question was clear...  The "for elk" comment was in reference to a set of photos that seemed to look more like deer than elk so I was clarifying what I was looking for.

Written word is not always the best medium.

[Mike450r]

Spike

wait, its legal to shoot a spike bull with eye guards?!

My understanding for spike only is if it doesn't have a branch that originates above the ears it can have all sorts of stuff going on in the eyeguard area and still be legal.  True spike area would be different but I have seen examples that are legal that I don't call a spike.  Ok,  just read the regs and it looks like originating 4 inches above the skull. which could be a few points an smaller bull.


As far as when it went spike only in a lot of E. Wa  I am thinking the early 90's.

[Chukarhead]

Reading this thread was like walking through a canyon full of retarded echos. 

[Jonathan_S]

Reading this thread was like walking through a canyon full of retarded echos.

A spike is when the elk has antlers that are small. 




   make sense?

[whacker1]

Reading this thread was like walking through a canyon full of retarded echos.

i will be using that one in the future.....love it

[Buckmark]

 In 1989, a harvest management strategy was implemented with a spike bull general season for the Blue Mountians

In 1994, the harvest strategy was changed to spike-only bull during general season for the Yakima and Colockum herds

The state experimented with a spike  only season for the southwest units but changed it after one year to the 3 point reg

[phishisgroovin]

and they should change it back in the colockum and Yakima units next year.
Seriously.............they should change it back to something that actually exists.
Wednesday, the game warden that stopped to check my tag and license said he only seen ONE true spike bull this season and it was down on a ranch where it was taken.

[coachcw]

I saw two true spikes last weekend , they must have crossed from the wind farm to the ytc. a spike may have eye gaurds as long as they are four inches or less from the base , never seen one but they could ,.

[Whitpirate]

There were 4 true spikes in the wind farm Sat.  They ran 60mph when you got to 1000 yards

[runamuk]

There were 4 true spikes in the wind farm Sat.  They ran 60mph when you got to 1000 yards

only doing 60 

[CAMPMEAT]

I knew what he wanted right away. I'm a pretty fart smella.........but didn't know the answer.

[Bob33]

The 2009 season was the first year that "true spike" was differentiated in Washington.

[tgomez]

Gotta be wayyyyyyyy longer than 2009. I shot a cow elk in the Nile area in yakima when I drew a cow tag in 2000 ,and it was spikes only for bulls then. 1994 sounds about right. WHY WOULD THEY WANT US TO SHOOT YOUNG BULLS ANYWAYS? They never get a chance to grow big. It's a dumb regulation, someone had their head way up their ass on that one.

[Jonathan_S]

Gotta be wayyyyyyyy longer than 2009. I shot a cow elk in the Nile area in yakima when I drew a cow tag in 2000 ,and it was spikes only for bulls then. 1994 sounds about right. WHY WOULD THEY WANT US TO SHOOT YOUNG BULLS ANYWAYS? They never get a chance to grow big. It's a dumb regulation, someone had their head way up their ass on that one.

Ahem, he said "True Spike" good sir...

The 2009 season was the first year that "true spike" was differentiated in Washington.

[6x6in6]

Nice work Bob33 - you managed to confuse even more people.   

True spike elk only applies to those certain areas pertaining to the Colockum herd.

[tgomez]

A spike, is a spike, is a spike. A spike that does not branch above the ear is a spike. Just my 

[Bob33]

Nice work Bob33 - you managed to confuse even more people.   

True spike elk only applies to those certain areas pertaining to the Colockum herd.

Missed that. You're right. "Spike only" is not "true spike".

Oh well - maybe someone will ask when "true spike" started and now it's answered. 

[6x6in6]

A spike, is a spike, is a spike. A spike that does not branch above the ear is a spike. Just my 

I'm sure it is, given that reasoning. 

[334OKH]

I knew the regs real good until I read this. I'm now going to get a beer and the regs......and my glasses and read.

[cbond3318]

Reading this thread was like walking through a canyon full of retarded echos.

My vote for saying of the week possibly the month!! I have wandered that canyon myself!!

The spike rule started at least 4" above the hair line but did not take real affect until brow tine.