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pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« on: October 02, 2014, 12:19:55 PM »
Figured it would be best to move this out of the pellet grill discussion..

Saw this article and it got me thinking about making some sort of kit or set-up to slide into my GMG to kick the pizza/baking up a notch.  Be nice to be able to bake with it like a real wood fired oven.  From the link and other sources it sounds like those ovens run 800*  :yike:

Having the upper steel plate for downward radiation sounds interesting.  I already have a stone, just need a 1/4 steel plate and something to frame it up with.

http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2013/04/the-pizza-lab-combine-the-kettlepizza-and-the-baking-steel-for-the-ultimate-home-pizza-setup.html

Thoughts?

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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2014, 12:31:41 PM »
I cook them on my Green Egg at about 700.  Best pizza ever.
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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 02:02:36 PM »
NRA4Life,
Awesome!  Any special set-up or way you arrange your Egg to do that?

Just found this one..  For those of you with pellet grills already, here you go!
http://pelletheads.com/index.php?topic=26928.msg231796#msg231796

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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2014, 01:26:44 PM »
Realized that I had not updated this thread with what I did and how it went..

After inquiring on that thread I went out and grabbed a few fire bricks to try my hand at it.  I wanted to go (as is my nature) CHEAP DIY and came up with this.
This is a hybrid of the set-up being done by Johnny on this thread:
http://pelletheads.com/index.php?topic=30811.msg261523#msg261523

Bit of a low budget DIY run-what-u-brung attempt this weekend.  I have not been able to find the fire brick slab / hearthstones here locally to use as a top plate and don't want to drop $80+shipping for a baking steal right now..

I have been able to find basic Fire bricks though and already have a thin 15" pizza stone (.35"). 
I will put the side dampers in to act a bit like the vaporizers you guys are using, just space them away from the fire pot shield to let lot of heat go straight up.


Then I am going to use the grease tray as my top baking steel over the fire bricks.  Since I am taking it out anyway, might as well give it a whirl!  It is only .1" thick so not going to have a ton of radiant heat, but I figure it is a vast improvement over just a stone in there with the grease tray in normal position blocking the stone.


Total of $8.50 for a two fire bricks after tax.

I had issues and have a bit to learn about this whole home-made thinner crust pizza game, but the method worked.
Here are the results. 
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Bottom


Does it mean anything if I mention that I ate all but 2 pieces of it myself?

Good:
  • Great heat transfer top and bottom with flavor to match.
  • Super quick cook.  3min, rotate 180, 3min DONE! :grill
  • Did I mention great flavor and crispy crust!?? :cool2:
  • Less than $10 modification (So far) :2cents:
  • YUMMY! :P

Needs Improvement:
  • My pizza making technique.  Got 1st one done and the crust was so thin I could not get it onto a pizza peal or even move it 1" on the cutting board we made it on.  Adding flour underneath did not help, the crust was to thin and just tore.  I ended up rolling it up like strudel to get it off the board and get tinfoil under it.  That is why no real border crust.
  • Anything better to use than tinfoil?  Be nice to not use it, though It did work pretty well and let me rotate the pizza mid cook...
  • Need to learn flour management.  After rolling it up I over-floured the tinfoil and had pockets of flour when it was done.
  • It ate a TON of pellets, at least 1/2 a hopper making 2 pizzas.  I let it build up temp a while, 15-20min?  But it basically ran full tilt for a long time.  I will have to work on what I can do to retain more heat in chamber. (downdraft, blanket..)
  • The grease tray was very wobbly.  The bricks are only 1" wide and not very stable.  not sure how to fix that, the turned down edges also made it more difficult to work with pizza under it.  This tells me a baking steel like johnny is doing should work AWESOME.
  • Need to even out temps so not have to rotate the pizza.  I think I will close up the right side deflector as the flame already goes that way because of the fan.  Should help shuttle heat left.
  • Maybe a bigger or large square bottom stone would work better to, so pizza not hanging over edges into direct heat.
  • OMG I need some heat resistant/insulated gloves/gauntlets for working in the grill not only with pizzas.  Only having one oven mit made things interesting..

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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2014, 01:33:38 PM »
My wife has done pizza on the Treager with a Pizza stone and it turned out great. Good idea on the fire bricks and steel reflector up top!  :tup:
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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2014, 01:43:39 PM »
Can't claim the idea as my own, never would have thought of it.  Stumbled on it over at pelletheads and the link on the 1st post...

I just got lucky in that the GMG has a big one piece steel drip tray.  I figured it was free so why not give it a shot!!  Worked pretty good.  a Baking steel probably would work better but those are $80+

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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2014, 01:55:08 PM »
For the Egg you can buy an accessory called the Plate Setter.  It's a thick ceramic plate with 3 leg-like structures.  It sets on the grate so the ceramic plate is about 3" above the grate.  You can put the pizza directly on there but I found it burns a bit when you get the Egg really hot.  So what I've done is put a steel plate on the grate and then put the plate setter on top of that.  Then there is no direct heat under the plate setter.  The heat then comes up around the outside of the steel plate.  Now I can crank the Egg up to 700+ without burning the crust and they cook literally in minutes.
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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2014, 02:03:01 PM »
I have had MANY delicious frozen foods cooked in an egg that normally only tasted OK.
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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2014, 04:17:49 AM »
 Nice mod and pizza. Love homemade pizza or calzones. Still trying to tune in the webber kettle grill. Hopefully some time next year.
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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2014, 07:45:42 AM »
Nice mod and pizza. Love homemade pizza or calzones. Still trying to tune in the webber kettle grill. Hopefully some time next year.

That link I had in 1st post is a add on you can buy for your weber and where I stole the idea from..

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Re: pellet woodfired oven - Grilling pizza to the next level..
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2014, 06:06:56 AM »
lol thanks  ;)

Just watched a video from Gary House cooking everything outdoors. Looks like a winner winner pizza dinner :tup:
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