Talk at the range Maybe funny Maybe sad

[LEN]

Back in the old days when I did some rangemaster A shooter had several open sights rifles and a new pride and joy 300WM for elk. Shot fair to OK open sights then to the 300WM fired 3 shots from a fowled bore(he knew that much!) and did a 1" or so at 100 yards 3-4" high and 3-4" Right. I watched a lot of the shooting thru the spotting scope. And he started to put the rifle away after looking thru the spotting scope to confirm. I asked your not going to adjust the scope? He looked at me funny and said Why?  I know where it shoots and besides it's bore sighted.



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[superdown]

This did not occur at a range but a similar circumstance my uncle had a 250-3000 savage model 99 and had a scope put on and bore sighted and then proceeded to find reasons to take it off and put it back on several times.My father his brother could not convince him that every time he took it off it needed to be re bore sighted and then have a final sight in done on a proper target he was vehement that a bore sight was fine and it didn't  matter that it had been taken of several times. So when he went deer hunting he shot a deer hitting it five times once in the butt and in a couple of the legs a shoulder and then finally the neck is what put in down for good.After all of that he decided that hunting wasn't for him and several years later he gave his last rifle.

[huntandjeep]

Couple years back a guy I work with  decided he was going to take up hunting. Went to Walmart and picked up a Rem 30.06/ Simmons scope package. He decided he was hunting Goldendale so I told him a couple spots I knew. Following Monday he shows up to work and tells me about his hunt. Missed a deer the first day and a bear the second. Questioned him a little as to why then it hit me. I asked him if he sighted in the scope. I got a blank stare back and he  said " No it was installed at the factory , they wouldn't mount it and not check it". I still give him a hard time everytime I see him.

[ghosthunter]

Knew a guy who we could not convince to sit at a bench and site in. He thought we were nuts because there was no benches in the woods.
Instead he would hike trails and shoot at stumps off hand. If he hit the stump he felt that was good enough.

[actionshooter]

I like to watch the guys who shoot 1 round, adjust the scope, and repeat until they have shot 30 rounds and still aren't zero'ed.

[runamuk]

I like to watch the guys who shoot 1 round, adjust the scope, and repeat until they have shot 30 rounds and still aren't zero'ed.

   ok thats funny

I liked the rangemaster when I used to go to the range he often gave me pointers.  I preferred to go alone it was kinda nice.  Never saw anything too crazy the young guys that would just unload the ar and the pistols a fast as they could with no regard for good or accurate shooting were always funny.  Usually ended up meeting at least one decent person each time I went.

[Jonathan_S]

I like to watch the guys who shoot 1 round, adjust the scope, and repeat until they have shot 30 rounds and still aren't zero'ed.

   I do that until I'm within a few inches.  After mounting a new scope usually.

Why should I shoot an entire group if my first shot hits 14" high at 100 yards?

[actionshooter]

I like to watch the guys who shoot 1 round, adjust the scope, and repeat until they have shot 30 rounds and still aren't zero'ed.

   I do that until I'm within a few inches.  After mounting a new scope usually.

Why should I shoot an entire group if my first shot hits 14" high at 100 yards?

Do you reach 30 rounds and still aren't zero'd? If you are you might re think your process, if not them you don't fall into this category. 

[Jonathan_S]

   I would hope I'm zeroed after 30.  Ammo for the .45/70 isn't reloaded cheap and my shoulders aren't as tough as some of y'all.

[hunter105]

My experience with bore sighting by a gun shop you are lucky to hit paper at 50 yards.  Why anyone would go hunting without shooting their gun first doesn't make any sense to me, this includes experience hunters who haven't shot since the last season.  But you have to admit, you can see some interesting things at the range.

[quadrafire]

I've worked a range during sight-in just prior to modern deer season. One guy showed up with 3 different calibers of ammo in the same box to shoot through one rifle. 

[JimmyHoffa]

Once at the range for pistol qualifications we had a new guy and the instructor asked him to verify the gun was loaded.  Too quickly to be stopped he turned it around and looked down the barrel.  'Yep it's loaded.'  Everyone got to go sit through the safety brief again.

[Blacklab]

The first time I went to an indoor pistol and rim fire range. As I paid my entry fee. The guy at the desk says btw every shot to the ceiling is $10. I kind of laughed and said okay. When I get to range area. Every station had holes to the ceiling  Here I thought he was joking.

[BigGoonTuna]

i dropped in to sportsmans warehouse in puyallup for some fishing tackle the night before modern deer season this year, was shocked at the amount of guys buying new rifles and bring old ones in to have scoped.  i have a feeling most of them were going hunting the next day.

[slm9s]

I helped an outsider look for an elk he wounded this year.  Took a shot at ~ 200 yards.  After a while he confided in me that when he was going to sight in his rifle, first shot hit the center of the paper at 25 yards.  Some "old-timer" told him thats all he needs, he should be on at 200.  So he stopped because he didn't want to "waste" ammo confirming his ONE SHOT sight in.  Ended with a wounded elk that I doubt he ever found.   Man, was I pizzed.   

[j_h_nimrod]

I was at the range and an acquaintance was there with his old and newly refurbished/refinished Savage 7mm Mag. He was shooting away and after awhile came over and started telling me he thought there was something wrong with the gun because it was shooting all over the place and was being difficult to extract. Could I come over and look it over for him?  I went over and could find nothing obviously wrong with the scope, action, barrel, bolt, barrel nut, etc. and I was just chalking it up to an inexperienced shooter. Then he hands me some of the fired brass to show me they looked a little funny too. What he handed me were the nicest collection of fire formed .270/7mm Mags I had ever seen .  It amazed me that those .270 Win loads even cycled, fired and ejected with only minimal issues. I pointed out his problem and he assured me the store assured him this was the right ammo.

Not sure who is worse, the store or the guy that took their word...

[Biggerhammer]

I had a friend that purchased a rifle in 30-06, 20 plus years ago. He's not into reloading and shoots factory ammo. The day he purchased the rifle used, we went for a drive in the hills. He had me stop at some ribbon cliffs out in the sage country. He got out loaded the rifle up, picked out a big rock at about a 100 yards with a small light colored spot in the center of it. He took took aim with the old 3-9 Redfield and fired 5.

The group was about the size of a soft ball, 8-10" high. He got back in the truck, I asked if he was going to adjust that scope and he said "Why? I know where it shoots" . That's the way that rifle has stayed and he's killed allot of Mulies, Elk and bear with it over the past 20 years or so. The last elk he shot, when I got to him and the elk. I asked what bullet he used, he didn't know as to he had 10 or 12 cartridges in his pocket that were 3 different makes and bullet types. Some people could care less and it still works and animals still die.

[mountainman]

Have seen many 270 win fireformed to 270 weatherby or the same w 300 win/  weatherby  ...

[JJB11B]

My good friend has fire formed a few of my .308 to partial 30-06 over the years, shooting from prone on a blanket, grabbed the wrong box while I was shooting as well, I have saved them wrote his name and date on each of them, someday they will wind up as orniments on a christmas tree or dangling from a euro mount at his house

[irish52084]

Maybe 7-8 years ago I was at the range shooting my 300 ultra mag and having a good time burning up the last of some handloads I had. I was 21 or 22 years old at this time and this rifle is an early Christensen arms rifle so it drew a lot of attention at the range. A guy in his late 30's or early 40's sits at the bench next to me with a brand new Remington in 300 ultra and begins to sight in his rifle. After a while I can see him struggling to zero his rifle and he starts asking me for help and I agree to help him out. He shoots a few rounds and I gave him a few suggestions; don't rest the barrel on your rest, use the tip of your finger instead of the joint, check your mounts and hardware etch... He's thanks me for my help and then proceeds to ignore all my advice. A few groups later he begins asking an older gentleman at the range for help sighting in his rifle and receives the same exact advice from him as I had given him 20 minutes earlier.
I finished up my shooting about an hour later and this guy was still there trying to unravel the mystery of sighting in his rifle. All I could think is if you didn't want advice from a 21-22 year old then why ask me and then ignore it?

[Bango skank]

I had a friend that purchased a rifle in 30-06, 20 plus years ago. He's not into reloading and shoots factory ammo. The day he purchased the rifle used, we went for a drive in the hills. He had me stop at some ribbon cliffs out in the sage country. He got out loaded the rifle up, picked out a big rock at about a 100 yards with a small light colored spot in the center of it. He took took aim with the old 3-9 Redfield and fired 5.

The group was about the size of a soft ball, 8-10" high. He got back in the truck, I asked if he was going to adjust that scope and he said "Why? I know where it shoots" . That's the way that rifle has stayed and he's killed allot of Mulies, Elk and bear with it over the past 20 years or so. The last elk he shot, when I got to him and the elk. I asked what bullet he used, he didn't know as to he had 10 or 12 cartridges in his pocket that were 3 different makes and bullet types. Some people could care less and it still works and animals still die.

Maybe, but i bet they make quite a few bad shots on animals but dont mention them

[Biggerhammer]

I had a friend that purchased a rifle in 30-06, 20 plus years ago. He's not into reloading and shoots factory ammo. The day he purchased the rifle used, we went for a drive in the hills. He had me stop at some ribbon cliffs out in the sage country. He got out loaded the rifle up, picked out a big rock at about a 100 yards with a small light colored spot in the center of it. He took took aim with the old 3-9 Redfield and fired 5.

The group was about the size of a soft ball, 8-10" high. He got back in the truck, I asked if he was going to adjust that scope and he said "Why? I know where it shoots" . That's the way that rifle has stayed and he's killed allot of Mulies, Elk and bear with it over the past 20 years or so. The last elk he shot, when I got to him and the elk. I asked what bullet he used, he didn't know as to he had 10 or 12 cartridges in his pocket that were 3 different makes and bullet types. Some people could care less and it still works and animals still die.

Maybe, but i bet they make quite a few bad shots on animals but dont mention them

Great assumption!

[mountainman]

I had a friend that purchased a rifle in 30-06, 20 plus years ago. He's not into reloading and shoots factory ammo. The day he purchased the rifle used, we went for a drive in the hills. He had me stop at some ribbon cliffs out in the sage country. He got out loaded the rifle up, picked out a big rock at about a 100 yards with a small light colored spot in the center of it. He took took aim with the old 3-9 Redfield and fired 5.

The group was about the size of a soft ball, 8-10" high. He got back in the truck, I asked if he was going to adjust that scope and he said "Why? I know where it shoots" . That's the way that rifle has stayed and he's killed allot of Mulies, Elk and bear with it over the past 20 years or so. The last elk he shot, when I got to him and the elk. I asked what bullet he used, he didn't know as to he had 10 or 12 cartridges in his pocket that were 3 different makes and bullet types. Some people could care less and it still works and animals still die.

Maybe, but i bet they make quite a few bad shots on animals but dont mention them

[Jonathan_S]

Biggerhammer, it's not really hard to guess that people who treat their equipment that way have a higher percentage of wounded/lost animals   

[Biggerhammer]

Biggerhammer, it's not really hard to guess that people who treat their equipment that way have a higher percentage of wounded/lost animals   

Guessing is a losers game. I'll stick with reality and facts.

[coachcw]

I love the guy who burns a box of ammo sighting in and ends up with the last shot close to the bull on a barrel that's hot as hell...... I'm sure it hits the same on a cold clean bore shot