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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2014, 08:16:14 PM »
This thread is funny.  So how does thr .284 work on 2 points? :chuckle:

Stuffs them in the dirt as well as a 5.56 and a 60gr Nolser Partition. Both are great 2 point medicine!

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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2014, 08:19:10 PM »
I like the .284 Winchester, I've never really looking but have always told myself if I walked into a gun shop and there was a clean Winchester Model 88 in .284, I would buy it.

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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2014, 08:21:46 PM »
I'm a huge 6.5-284 fan.  In my opinion it's one of the greatest mid sized, can do a little bit of everything, rounds ever made.  I forget it's even a wildcat, until I hear someone call it one.  Factory rifles chambered in 6.5-284 and many different manufacturers making loaded ammo, it's hard for me to think of it as a wildcat round.  My 6-284 is so easy to make, because of the 6.5-284 Lapua brass, I forget it's a wildcat, too.

Like a lot of the things we debate on here, most of it is subject to personal opinion.  The argument can be made either way, which one is better.  Calling the 6.5-284 a "Fad" is pretty funny considering how long, its been a very popular cartridge but hey, it's a free world, call it whatever you want.  I doubt any of the many 6.5-284 shooters will care.

As for a .284 w/180's running 2900fps, wellllllll, you could be surprised.  A straight 284 Win. on a long action with a long throat and a powder that was well suited for this combo would get closer than you think, with even a 26in tube.  You'd be running your loads right at redline to get there but there's a very likely chance you could get 2800fps w/180 and 26in tube and not go over max pressure.

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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2014, 08:25:28 PM »
I'm a huge 6.5-284 fan.  In my opinion it's one of the greatest mid sized, can do a little bit of everything, rounds ever made.  I forget it's even a wildcat, until I hear someone call it one.  Factory rifles chambered in 6.5-284 and many different manufacturers making loaded ammo, it's hard for me to think of it as a wildcat round.  My 6-284 is so easy to make, because of the 6.5-284 Lapua brass, I forget it's a wildcat, too.

Like a lot of the things we debate on here, most of it is subject to personal opinion.  The argument can be made either way, which one is better.  Calling the 6.5-284 a "Fad" is pretty funny considering how long, its been a very popular cartridge but hey, it's a free world, call it whatever you want.  I doubt any of the many 6.5-284 shooters will care.

As for a .284 w/180's running 2900fps, wellllllll, you could be surprised.  A straight 284 Win. on a long action with a long throat and a powder that was well suited for this combo would get closer than you think, with even a 26in tube.  You'd be running your loads right at redline to get there but there's a very likely chance you could get 2800fps w/180 and 26in tube and not go over max pressure.
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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2014, 08:26:16 PM »
This thread is funny.  So how does thr .284 work on 2 points? :chuckle:

Stuffs them in the dirt as well as a 5.56 and a 60gr Nolser Partition. Both are great 2 point medicine!

Lmao!!! I'm crying!!!...
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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2014, 08:27:24 PM »
I'm a huge 6.5-284 fan.  In my opinion it's one of the greatest mid sized, can do a little bit of everything, rounds ever made.  I forget it's even a wildcat, until I hear someone call it one.  Factory rifles chambered in 6.5-284 and many different manufacturers making loaded ammo, it's hard for me to think of it as a wildcat round.  My 6-284 is so easy to make, because of the 6.5-284 Lapua brass, I forget it's a wildcat, too.

Like a lot of the things we debate on here, most of it is subject to personal opinion.  The argument can be made either way, which one is better.  Calling the 6.5-284 a "Fad" is pretty funny considering how long, its been a very popular cartridge but hey, it's a free world, call it whatever you want.  I doubt any of the many 6.5-284 shooters will care.

As for a .284 w/180's running 2900fps, wellllllll, you could be surprised.  A straight 284 Win. on a long action with a long throat and a powder that was well suited for this combo would get closer than you think, with even a 26in tube.  You'd be running your loads right at redline to get there but there's a very likely chance you could get 2800fps w/180 and 26in tube and not go over max pressure.

Try a 6.5/06 AI and be healed....
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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #66 on: December 17, 2014, 08:27:56 PM »
It really has nothing to do with that... Say your building a *censored* 68 camaro, you want say, true 400 hp out of a small block, you gonna use a 283 or a 400 small block???

I'd start with the 283 because I hate those over heating, siamesed cylinder, POS 400's but that's just me. :chuckle:

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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #67 on: December 17, 2014, 08:31:31 PM »
It really has nothing to do with that... Say your building a *censored* 68 camaro, you want say, true 400 hp out of a small block, you gonna use a 283 or a 400 small block???

I'd start with the 283 because I hate those over heating, siamesed cylinder, POS 400's but that's just me. :chuckle:

Somehow I believe that, and I bet you drive diesel and pull a trailer 3 times a year??
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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #68 on: December 17, 2014, 08:31:47 PM »
It really has nothing to do with that... Say your building a *censored* 68 camaro, you want say, true 400 hp out of a small block, you gonna use a 283 or a 400 small block???

I'd start with the 283 because I hate those over heating, siamesed cylinder, POS 400's but that's just me. :chuckle:

you don't have to explain yourself to .257.  He shoots weatherbys....factory...weatherbys.  By choice. 

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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #69 on: December 17, 2014, 08:34:45 PM »
I'm out.  Thanks for the laughs.  Sorry for the hi-jack.

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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2014, 08:35:54 PM »
It really has nothing to do with that... Say your building a *censored* 68 camaro, you want say, true 400 hp out of a small block, you gonna use a 283 or a 400 small block???

I'd start with the 283 because I hate those over heating, siamesed cylinder, POS 400's but that's just me. :chuckle:

Somehow I believe that, and I bet you drive diesel and pull a trailer 3 times a year??

Nope, haven't owned a diesel pickup since I sold my boat two years ago.  :tup:

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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #71 on: December 17, 2014, 08:36:42 PM »
It really has nothing to do with that... Say your building a *censored* 68 camaro, you want say, true 400 hp out of a small block, you gonna use a 283 or a 400 small block???

I'd start with the 283 because I hate those over heating, siamesed cylinder, POS 400's but that's just me. :chuckle:

you don't have to explain yourself to .257.  He shoots weatherbys....factory...weatherbys.  By choice. 
Lol, can't belittle a man for his choice  :chuckle:
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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #72 on: December 17, 2014, 08:41:48 PM »
It really has nothing to do with that... Say your building a *censored* 68 camaro, you want say, true 400 hp out of a small block, you gonna use a 283 or a 400 small block???

I'd start with the 283 because I hate those over heating, siamesed cylinder, POS 400's but that's just me. :chuckle:

you don't have to explain yourself to .257.  He shoots weatherbys....factory...weatherbys.  By choice.

Oh h*ll no, do I shoot weatherbys.  That's not to say I didn't at one time, many years ago, but I haven't owned one in a long time.  In fact, the only factory rifle I currently own is a 300win mag I bought a couple weeks ago from a member here and it was only bought to be a donor.

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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2014, 08:43:09 PM »
It really has nothing to do with that... Say your building a *censored* 68 camaro, you want say, true 400 hp out of a small block, you gonna use a 283 or a 400 small block???

I'd start with the 283 because I hate those over heating, siamesed cylinder, POS 400's but that's just me. :chuckle:

you don't have to explain yourself to .257.  He shoots weatherbys....factory...weatherbys.  By choice.

Really?  I killed 3 deer in 2 weeks on my daddies ranch, I killed  2 elk with my  bow and blah blah, I'm selling my Sitka gear and getting the best, blah blah blah .....

One thing is for certain justin , that 257 Roy shootin factory ammo has killed a bigger mule deer buck than you or any of your "custom" rifles.... Just sayin
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Re: Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?
« Reply #74 on: December 17, 2014, 08:43:28 PM »
Because a 6.5 142gr Sierra MK or a 140 Berger VLD from a 6.5-284 will walk all over anything you can stuff in a .284 Winchester. For hunting purposes and your average range. It isn't going to matter on game, for hunting you do have a larger, heavier bullet selection in .284 than you do in 6.5.
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