So most of this season my son was shooting a borrowed 870 youth 20 gauge in 3". He was having a hard time cycling the gun, which I noticed was pretty stiff also. When a flock would come in he would only seam to get one shot off. So we switched back to his 870 wing master with 2 3/4" shells and now he helping fill the limit. The weekend before we had a group of 4 geese lock up in the decoys, as we sat up in the lay downs I picked a bird and just as I was ready to shoot, the goose folded. The kid got the bead on me. I can remember doing that with my dad when I was a kid.