HB 1119 Hunter Education (Fees, Minimum Age)

[Jacque]

Why would you Identify an Initiative in a bill?  Most initiatives get gutted or are determined to be unconstitutional within the first year.  What then?  How about our elected officials and policy makers start by using their head instead of their emotions.  This bill was put forward in a rush to be to answer the one of the questions that make I-594 a nightmare.

[ghosthunter]

I think some day you will see for profit companies conducting Hunter Education.


As far as the 8 year old proposed rule it has been talked about for 25 years. The fact is that younger kids are taking up hundreds of seats every year with zero hope of passing. Yes a few do. But most do not.

So if not a age limit what is the solution???

[jackelope]

The only one,Wow that makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over.I just like everyone else is glad someone brings these up,your not the only one but its nice.You are the only one that brings them up and defends the heck out of them argueing with everyone elses op..If you dont want the opinion of others dont give yours.

Soooooooooooo...............would you rather have someone share this information with us publicly here that  may not necessarily be brought to light by anyone else?
Making posts like this is a sure way to drive away a great source of information directly related to the outdoors in our state.

[stevemiller]

The only one,Wow that makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over.I just like everyone else is glad someone brings these up,your not the only one but its nice.You are the only one that brings them up and defends the heck out of them argueing with everyone elses op..If you dont want the opinion of others dont give yours.

Soooooooooooo...............would you rather have someone share this information with us publicly here that  may not necessarily be brought to light by anyone else?
Making posts like this is a sure way to drive away a great source of information directly related to the outdoors in our state.

I have said I appreciate it when members(not just him/her)bring these to our forum.

[stevemiller]

Have also stated that he/she is entitled to an op. but obviously the ones that dont agree with him/her are not.

[jackelope]

Have also stated that he/she is entitled to an op. but obviously the ones that dont agree with him/her are not.

I'm just not seeing the source of your concern. Maybe it's in a different thread.

[stevemiller]

Your right sir you are absolutely right,The voting says all that needs to be said.That being said I dont need to reply in this thread any longer. thank you for bringing that to my att. (what the concern is).

[Special T]

I want to say in front of all of you that Bigtex does more than most for the good of everyone by posting bills that come up and commenting with his expertise on sporting related legal issues. We all would do well to remeber that when most of our frustrations should be taken out on many of our stupid legislators here in WA.

[bigtex]

Representatives Gregerson (D) and  Van Werven (R) have added themselves onto this bill as sponsors.

[lokidog]

I think some day you will see for profit companies conducting Hunter Education.


As far as the 8 year old proposed rule it has been talked about for 25 years. The fact is that younger kids are taking up hundreds of seats every year with zero hope of passing. Yes a few do. But most do not.

So if not a age limit what is the solution???

This would be the only reason I would support this.  I think, instead of a minimum age, maybe charge a $20 or $50 deposit to take the class.  All of it is refunded, or maybe $5 kept, if a student passes.  If the student fails, it is completely forfeited.  This would make parents of the very young ones be very sure that the kid was able and/or motivated to pass.  Just a thought.

[Bob33]

I think some day you will see for profit companies conducting Hunter Education.


As far as the 8 year old proposed rule it has been talked about for 25 years. The fact is that younger kids are taking up hundreds of seats every year with zero hope of passing. Yes a few do. But most do not.

So if not a age limit what is the solution???

This would be the only reason I would support this.  I think, instead of a minimum age, maybe charge a $20 or $50 deposit to take the class.  All of it is refunded, or maybe $5 kept, if a student passes.  If the student fails, it is completely forfeited.  This would make parents of the very young ones be very sure that the kid was able and/or motivated to pass.  Just a thought.

Courses can charge $20 now.

Students that fail usually feel bad enough. I don't think penalizing them further would be a good approach. Unless they're jerks or irresponsible we encourage them to come back when they're a bit older.

[ghosthunter]

I think some day you will see for profit companies conducting Hunter Education.


As far as the 8 year old proposed rule it has been talked about for 25 years. The fact is that younger kids are taking up hundreds of seats every year with zero hope of passing. Yes a few do. But most do not.

So if not a age limit what is the solution???

This would be the only reason I would support this.  I think, instead of a minimum age, maybe charge a $20 or $50 deposit to take the class.  All of it is refunded, or maybe $5 kept, if a student passes.  If the student fails, it is completely forfeited.  This would make parents of the very young ones be very sure that the kid was able and/or motivated to pass.  Just a thought.

Courses can charge $20 now.

Students that fail usually feel bad enough. I don't think penalizing them further would be a good approach. Unless they're jerks or irresponsible we encourage them to come back when they're a bit older.

Yes they can but when the coarse is finished they get the money back.

I as a instructor already have enough loops to jump through. The students are required to sign up on line for a Tradional class now. This generates the paperwork which is on line and goes to the state after the class concludes all on line.
Since they have to sign up on line they should pay the deposit on line. Leaving the instructor out of the money handling.

Now if instructor goes Bobs way. You have to...
Collect the funds
Hold the funds
Redistribute the funds
And at the end of the year report all the funds and how they were handled for every class.

Bobs way= Instructer responsible.
Pay on line= state responsible.
Bobs way, no legislative action needed.
But for the DFW to collect it for tradional classes and keep the fee, they need permission from Legislature.

[Bob33]

Bob's way: we have no problems with it.