HB 1838 Baiting for Spring Bear Season TERRIBLE NEWS

[BOWHUNTER45]

Definitely in favor ..

[Boss .300 winmag]

I vote yes, although i would rather see it expanded to all spring hunts (and fall to for that matter)    i have to ask, why does this bill prohibit the use of oil and grease?

My guess would be the of mess it makes leaving a long term site where bears will congregate past the season. Also could be water quality issues as well.

[Blacktail Sniper]

I vote yes, although i would rather see it expanded to all spring hunts (and fall to for that matter)    i have to ask, why does this bill prohibit the use of oil and grease?

My guess would be the of mess it makes leaving a long term site where bears will congregate past the season. Also could be water quality issues as well.

 

And trying to get it through to all seasons would have never gotten it off the ground, that was clear from the hearing on Feb 10th...

[fastdam]

Well I guess any baiting would be better than no baiting.

[h20hunter]

It appears that the bill is moving forward some, next step:

        Feb 17    Scheduled for executive session in the House Committee on Agriculture & Natural Resources at 10:00 AM. (Subject to change)

My understanding is at that time, the committee has three options for action:

Pass it and move it forward,

Kill it and it is done,

Do nothing and it dies on its own.

Here is a link to the bill's tracking page showing what has happened/is happening. There is also a link to comment on it.  It isn't dead yet, so the more we support it, the more chance it has.


http://app.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1838&year=2015#videos

Excellent link. I went on, filled it out, and voiced my support.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

It appears that the bill is moving forward some, next step:

        Feb 17    Scheduled for executive session in the House Committee on Agriculture & Natural Resources at 10:00 AM. (Subject to change)

My understanding is at that time, the committee has three options for action:

Pass it and move it forward,

Kill it and it is done,

Do nothing and it dies on its own.

Here is a link to the bill's tracking page showing what has happened/is happening. There is also a link to comment on it.  It isn't dead yet, so the more we support it, the more chance it has.


http://app.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1838&year=2015#videos

Excellent link. I went on, filled it out, and voiced my support.

I got It done

[bigtex]

TERRIBLE NEWS

The committee did pass a substitute of this bill. HOWEVER, it came with significant changes. Under the bill only landowners can obtain a baiting permit to avoid bear damage to crops and livestock. The language that allowed spring bear hunters the ability to obtain a bait permit has been eliminated!

[BULLBLASTER]

TERRIBLE NEWS

The committee did pass a substitute of this bill. HOWEVER, it came with significant changes. Under the bill only landowners can obtain a baiting permit to avoid bear damage to crops and livestock. The language that allowed spring bear hunters the ability to obtain a bait permit has been eliminated!

[pd]

BigTex, thanks for keeping us up to date on this.

BigTex knows the game in Olympia--what has happened here is not at all unusual.  (It is also not unusual to overturn this in the other house's committee, or on the floor, or in the budget committees.  However, it takes a dedicated bill sponsor.)

You all need to take a long term view on this bill.  First, the timber companies got permission to bait.  Now, with this bill, landowners of all stripes get permits to bait (if there is damage to livestock or crops).  Eventually, logic prevails, and the common hunter gets permission to bait.  You need to keep pushing and find a sponsor.  Politics is like making sausage, as you all know.

[bigtex]

BigTex, thanks for keeping us up to date on this.

BigTex knows the game in Olympia--what has happened here is not at all unusual.  (It is also not unusual to overturn this in the other house's committee, or on the floor, or in the budget committees.  However, it takes a dedicated bill sponsor.)

You all need to take a long term view on this bill.  First, the timber companies got permission to bait.  Now, with this bill, landowners of all stripes get permits to bait (if there is damage to livestock or crops).  Eventually, logic prevails, and the common hunter gets permission to bait.  You need to keep pushing and find a sponsor.  Politics is like making sausage, as you all know.

I think you are right. While we all wanted to see the original bill pass, something is better then nothing. Maybe this year it opens it up for landowners to bait where there is damage. In 5 years another bill is passed that opens up the spring hunt to bait. 5 years later some or all of the fall units.

I think everyone wanted that grand slam or at least a home run with this bill, and we may end up with a single.

[NW-GSP]

So this would include landowners like timber companies right?

[RadSav]

Do the changes open the door for a timber company to lease a baiting permit for spring tag hunters on their land?  Would this allow a timber company to buy a permit and then sell a locational pass to a spring bear holder?

[bigtex]

Do the changes open the door for a timber company to lease a baiting permit for spring tag hunters on their land?  Would this allow a timber company to buy a permit and then sell a locational pass to a spring bear holder?

No.

So this would include landowners like timber companies right?

Correct.

Basically the only individuals who could bait under this bill now are the owners of the land. The owner cannot then permit other's to bait. So realistically it would apply to timber companies, however the only one in the company who could bait would be the actual owner of the company.

[trophyhunt]

Do the changes open the door for a timber company to lease a baiting permit for spring tag hunters on their land?  Would this allow a timber company to buy a permit and then sell a locational pass to a spring bear holder?

No.

So this would include landowners like timber companies right?

Correct.

Basically the only individuals who could bait under this bill now are the owners of the land. The owner cannot then permit other's to bait. So realistically it would apply to timber companies, however the only one in the company who could bait would be the actual owner of the company.

So, could I bait on my 1 1/4 acre?  I have wildlife all around my house and it's not in a firearm restricted area, just curious if I could bait on my property?  Of course to save my small trees from being eaten.  Thanks

[carpsniperg2]

Bigtex,

With this change is it still only open for landowners to bait in the spring or did it open it up for spring and fall? General and permit?

If a guy has a orchard and the bears are tearing things up could one get a permit?